Boeing-777 was shot down by Ukrainians!!!

I quote a Russian officer:
I was a reserve officer, he served in the defense, will express his arguments on July 17 downed "Boeing 777."
1. Nobody saw the launching day "land - air." Trace of it goes into the clouds and kept in the air for 10-15 minutes. Rumble is such that lays the ears for 10 km from the launch pad.
2. Numerous witnesses saw the fighter (some say two) in the area of ​​debris falling out "Boeing" from heaven.
3. At the site I have personally seen traces of the wreckage of the objectives of R-60 missiles, "Book", C-75, C-125, C-200, C-300. I maintain that the wreckage of the Boeing 777 has traces of R-60 missiles "air - air".
4. Neither officer defense will not shoot neotstrelyannogo of anti-missile system, because it could end badly. Anti-aircraft missile system "Buk" for 20 years at the site did not shoot. Old missiles can fly stupidly did not explode or even at the start. And aircraft missiles "air - air" P-60 do in Ukraine, so they periodically refresh.
5. Command center "Book" has the ability to capture the Su-25 (27), MiG-29 (31) and induce the target ("Boeing-777"). In this pilot generally do not need to do anything, except when approaching the target to put missiles and give volley of cannon.
6. One fighter was shot down by the other (domino effect). The pilots ejected. Witnesses saw it. They saw two parachutes.
7. "Book" without a single rocket, which showed - is a fraud. Rocket took off. She did not start. Incidentally, the anti-aircraft gunners on particularly important objectives had not fired a single missile. They shoot at least two, it is an iron rule, because the probability of hitting 0.6 - 0.85.
8. Militias had of fighting anti-aircraft missile system "Buk", because according to the instructions under pain of death if captured officers SAM must destroy spetsvychislitel without which complex dead.
So: we had nothing to bring down the militias "Boeing-777", but their words have used cunning Americans who offered puppet and fool Poroshenko knock board number 1 (Putin), who flew in these parts at the same time. They convinced him that MN17 - this is the board number 1. Poroshenko grabbed the last straw that FIHM decided that Americans would help him put all the blame on the militia who captured boasted "beech" and Su-25. Pinchas Valtsman (sorry, "thoroughbred Ukrainian" Poroshenko) stupidly (*)(*)(*)(*)ed in all respiratory and pihatelnye because ATO gave him two weeks instead of three months. Obama was silent and did not present their evidence against militias or Russia.
The last reason why knocked Boeing 777 is not "Book". "Book" in the absence of interference beats productions by half rectification, its fragments are many times more powerful than the P-60. With this method can not be fragments ask cockpit left and rear in the horizontal plane at an angle of 30 degrees. If the "Book", the fragments would come from the bottom at different angles depending on the position of the launcher and the aircraft.
The conclusion is clear as day: civil aircraft Boeing-777 was shot down Nazi Ukrainians.

 

Then why did the Russians not allow access to the site for days? If they had nothing to hide, why were they "cleaning" the area? Are the Russians and KGB Putin capable of doing this? Of course!

 

It is a very interesting theory, but it has the same problem as those they blame Russia ... the lack of evidence .. if we could base our opinion on facts, it would be much better to get to know what happened.

Regards

 

No clear cut evidence because the Russians wiped the scene clean so that their fingerprints( so to speak) are nowhere to be found. They are the only ones with the capability. Putin can say he did't do it, but like President Pinocchio, he LIES with a straight face.

 

Sorry, but Russians weren't at the crash site. Ukranian seperatists were. They tampered with it. They removed evidence. And they left bodies to rot.

Let's get some hard evidence before pointing fingers.

 

I think the recording of the russian rebel boasting of the shoot down is pretty clear cut.

 

The fascist propaganda coming out of the Kremlin isn't even trying to be credible, the SU25 has a max ceiling of 7 km which is 10,000 feet below the altitude of the Malaysian airliner,


Aircraft performance
Take-off weight:
- Normal (with 500 + 2hFAB 2hR-73E), kg 14440
- Maximum, kg 19300
Landing weight
- Normal (without pods), kg 11020
- Maximum, kg 13200
Maximum combat load, kg 4000
Ceiling (without pods), km 7
Maximum speed at sea level (without pods), km / h 950
The maximum number of M (without pods) 0.82
Maximum operating load +6.5 / -2.0
Flight range without pendants, km:
- At the ground, km 500
- At height, km 1000
- With 4hPTB-800 (with reset), km 1850
Takeoff:
- Normal take-off mass, m 500
- With a maximum take-off mass, m 1050
Path length:
- With normal landing weight, m 550
- With a maximum landing weight, m 750
Aircraft dimensions:
- Length, m 15.05
- Span, m 14.5
- Height, m 2
Crew 1
Power plant
Number and type of engines 2hR-195
Link to the maximum, kgf 4500
Avionics
1. Aimed navigation system
1.1 The information display system and management structure:
1.1.1. Onboard digital device
1.1.2. Reflex Aviation indicator
1.1.3. Multifunction color display on the LCD
1.1.4. Output data generating unit
1.1.5. Block input system information
1.1.6. Voltage regulator
1.1.7 Block synthesizing cartographic information
1.2. Satellite navigation system
1.3. Inertia navigation system
1.4. Radiofrequency range navigation system
1.5. Doppler ground speed and drift angle
1.6. Radio altimeter
1.7. An air signals
1.8. Laser range finding and illumination station
1.9. Apparatus forming control signals
2. Radio equipment:
2.1. Connected station
2.2. Communication station with the ground troops
2.3. Hardware speech information
2.4. IFF transponder
2.5. Automatic Direction Finder
2.6. Token radio receiver
2.7. Aircraft responder
3. Equity electronic countermeasures
3.1. Station warning radar illumination
3.2. Automatic ejection of clutter
3.3. Compact jammer (container)
4. Recording equipment, control and alarm
4.1. Airborne surveillance system and registration information
4.1.1. Video recording system
4.1.2. On-board system of recording the results of combat employment
4.2. Alarm system
4.3. Onboard recording device of flight parameters
4.3.1. Onboard storage with solid-state flash memory
4.4. Universal flight recorder
5. Weapons control system

http://translate.google.com/transla.../search?q=http://sukhoi.org/&biw=1025&bih=457

And we know for a fact that the Russian terrorists have the BUK system:


A launcher similar to the Buk missile system was seen by Associated Press journalists earlier Thursday near the eastern Ukrainian town of Snizhne, which is held by the rebels.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/storie...ME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2014-07-17-11-46-31

And finally the Russian terrorists have already admitted to shooting down the plane:

Malaysian Airlines MH17 reported crashed just after rebel leader boasted of shooting down plane: ‘We warned them not to fly in our skies’

An hour before news of the crash, Igor Strelkov reportedly wrote on Vkontakte, a popular Russian social media website, “In the district of Torez an An-26 was just shot down. It crashed somewhere near the Progress mine. We warned them not to fly in our skies.”



http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/0...plane-we-warned-them-not-to-fly-in-our-skies/

This just so happens to be the exact same time and the exact same place as the Malaysian civilian airliner was shot down:

The plane crashed in the village of Hrabove just north of Torez, a city in eastern Ukraine's Donetsk Oblast, as it was approaching the Russian border.[3]


http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php...7&diff=617356783&oldid=617356657#cite_note-31


The plane crashed near the town of Torez, east of Donetsk, the stronghold of the pro-Russian separatists whose four-month fight with the Ukrainian military has sparked Europe’s worst security crisis since the end of the Cold War.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/7feadbb4-0dc6-11e4-85ab-00144feabdc0.html#slide0

The problem for these mass murdering ethnic cleansers is that there was no military aircraft shot down yesterday morning.

And what's this? Well it's a captured audio intercept in which the same guy from the social network postings admits the downing of the Malaysian civilian airliner and proves conclusively that it was the Russian terrorists who brought down the aircraft and murdered nearly 300 innocent civilians:

Igor Bezler: We have just shot down a plane. Group Minera. It fell down beyond Yenakievo (Donetsk Oblast).

Geranin: Pilots. Where are the pilots?

IB: Gone to search for and photograph the plane. It's smoking.

VG: How many minutes ago?

IB: About 30 minutes ago.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ce-intercepted-tapes-russian-rebels/12826269/

http://www.nytimes.com/video/world/...intercepted-audio-of-ukraine-separatists.html

Way to fail pal.

 

The Russian apologists are getting pretty desperate - trying to push such a load of @#$%^&! Why don't they just admit that arming the trigger-happy and atrocity-prone pro-Russian militias of the "Donetsk Republic" was a dumb idea?

 

Wait!

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Tatyana Lancaster I am from Donetsk. I have Ukrainian blood in me but Ukrainian government brought me to the point that I hate Ukraine now. I am ashamed of my Ukrainian roots. My uncle was hiding with his family in basement of his house a week ago. Ukrainian army was bombing them. I still have relatives in Donetsk. We held a peaceful referendum few month ago and we expressed our desire to separate ourselves from rest of Ukraine. It is very difficult to live in country that does not recognize that half of Ukraine is speaking Russian language. I speak Ukrainian language but it is not my native tongue. It is not native language of people of Donetsk, Lugansk, Slovyansk, Odessa ect. New Ukrainian government sponsored by USA government had prohibited to use Russian language officially as soon as they came to power. Our truth is not politically correct now but Jesus truth was also not politically correct.

 

I found last night interesting photos and illustrations to help restore the approximate trajectory missiles "air-air", which released Ukrainian fighter SU-25 on a Boeing 777 flight MH17.

Top you see a photo of the wing, which was riddled with shrapnel from a rocket. Many argue and say that elements with shrapnel holes very little, so do not recommend based on the theory with a missile "air-to-air." However, there are nuances. What is this item? This is the end of the left wing. Rotate it to make it clearer about this:

That's something, is not it. We see about the angle of attack, it left behind. So, go on. Assuming that the shrapnel at high speed has gone further, it is due to damage and other fuselage. We are constantly talking about it, they say, where the fuselage? We use the geometry and draw a line along the path of these holes, as shown in the following image:

Direct headlong goes to the cockpit, barely touching her. This explains the absence of a large number of elements of the fuselage with bullet holes - shrapnel passed almost tangentially.

The Financial Times publishes a photo with an element of the fuselage from the cockpit, which was found in a tree Petropavlivka, it's all in the hole! Our theory is correct - all the fragments left in a straight line from the end of the left wing of the cockpit. Rocket "air-air" was - it is 100%. Direction of attack: back, left.

I can not say what the consequences at a great height and at a speed of almost 1000 km / h can cause such damage - let us tell the experts, but that the shooting Ukrainian plane - there. If anyone doubts this, let your doubts dissipate. Also, I dare say that the pilots were injured or killed by debris caught in them.
Imposing a piece of the fuselage in Photoshop:

Pictures are not displayed. You can see them on the Russian website:
http://anna-news.info/node/18763

 

Interesting. *SOMETHING* definitely ripped across the wing.

 

And who told them to? As the military has said, it is a very sophisticated piece of equipment which requires many months to learn how to operate. If the separatists did it, they needed help. Do I think Putin ordered them to shoot down the airline? No, but Russia equipped them and they are backed by Putin because he wants to recreate the USSR.

 

Funny, the top photo is part of the cockpit as shown in the other photos.

 

Ukraine rebel commander acknowledges fighters had BUK missile
A powerful Ukrainian rebel leader has confirmed that pro-Russian separatists had an anti-aircraft missile of the type Washington says was used to shoot down Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 and it could have originated in Russia.

In an interview with Reuters, Alexander Khodakovsky, commander of the Vostok Battalion, acknowledged for the first time since the airliner was brought down in eastern Ukraine on Thursday that the rebels did possess the BUK missile system and said it could have been sent back subsequently to remove proof of its presence
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN0FS1V920140723?irpc=932

 

This is fake

 

of course

 

[video=youtube;_6PV-wUoPPI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=_6PV-wUoPPI[/video]

 

Commander of Vostok Battalion of Russian rebels in eastern Ukraine admits that they had BUK missiles, and may have shot down the plane by mistake, thinking it was a Ukrainian plane.


http://news.yahoo.com/exclusive-ukr...edges-fighters-had-buk-165910507--sector.html

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lol!!!!

why, cause you don't like it?

 

What is it? Is it the American evidence obtained from the satellite?

 

Russians and their pathetic propaganda, the world knows them for the liars an barbarians they are.

 

cause it's fake.

 

what makes you think its a fake?

 

Yes, of course!