Boeing-777 was shot down by Ukrainians!!!

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  1. Yazverg

    Yazverg Well-Known Member

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    i do suppose anything, but the liar is West mass media, as always, we have already witnessed its spin on Iraq and Lybia and Syria.
     
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    Where is the video or audio from the journalist of RIA who was proven to be a liar?

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    russian media is a far more `as always` then the west media ;)
     
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    It's what I like to call the Russian two step.

    Any anti-Russian information, no matter how credible the source, "It's a lie, it's slander!"

    Any pro-Russian information, no matter how suspect the source, "It's the truth."

    They deserve a corrupt and pro-war leader such as Putin.
     
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    The Russian two step...

    I rest my case.
     
  7. Yazverg

    Yazverg Well-Known Member

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    :) If Reuters publishes the notion of Khodakovsky who would tell that RIA is lying ans Khodakovsky really agreed that BUK was at disposal of the rebels - your wonderful twist would have sense for someone but dummies.
    But it was Reuters journalist who had an interview with Khodakovsky. It was his words that were denied. It is Reuters which is spreading lies. If they want to save their image they should publish the data which is available at every journalist from a serious news agency... Before that I really valued Reuters a little bit more than foxnews.
     
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    there is the audio from the Reuters
    http://www.rferl.org/media/video/ukraine-rebel-commander-buk-missile/25468569.html

    (with eng subs)
     
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    not at all, in fact has a long way to go to level with there Western counterparts.
     
  10. Yazverg

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    That's a serious proof. It looks real. And for sure it is a proof that the rebels have BUK launcher. There need to be a reaction. Because it is a contradiction. One thing is when some president lies that his secret services have the evidence against Russia and some days later secret services tell that they don't have any evidence of this. But this is serious indeed. No kidding. They must response, because they really told before that they don't have such a weapon.
     
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    example, please
     
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    When did they ever deny having such a weapon?
     
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    A pro-Russian separatist fighting in eastern Ukraine has admitted rebel forces shot down Malaysia Airlines flight MH17, it has been claimed.

    The militant, who has not been identified, reportedly said fighters blasted the Boeing 777 out of the sky - killing all 298 people on board - after mistaking it for a Ukrainian government cargo plane.

    He said the rebels only realised their mistake when they began searching the crash site for the parachutes of military crew who may have bailed out the aircraft, only to find the bodies of children.

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ed-mistake-came-bodies-children-not-military-
     
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    1938 is not 2014... by other side... the Czechoslovak government in 1938-1939 did not come from any coup, .. a great difference with the illegal and coup authorities of Kiev .. who seized power through violence ...

    Only from 1922... when Lenin gave like a present...in fact, today, July, 24.. but in 1914.... Don and Lug were RUSSIA!, like Lemberg was AUSTRIA. Ukrainia is an artificial state created in the XX century, with the remains of the Austro-Hungarian Empire, achieved through Poland in 1945, and the Russian territory presented by the Bolsheviks ...Russia doesn´t have to respect an artificial state whose authorities have achieved power through a coup and the use of violence to establish a terrorist state contrary to the Russian people.
     
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    Borodai did it. He said in an interview that the one BUK they captured in ukrainian base is not able to be used as a weapon.
     
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    Since when are Ukrainians Nazis?????
     
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    I was referring to the BUK they were supplied by the Russians. The one used to shoot down the plane. The one removed to Russia the day after the shoot down.
     
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    Nobody is buying your transparently dishonest nonsense.
    The Russians are pulling the strings of the separatist terrorists in Ukraine and Putin is directly responsible for the violence.
     
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    And, without any actual evidence, you believe one Russian officer? Seriously?

    What a joke.
     
  20. MaximRud

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    It's incredible! Reuters published a fake that made from several pieces from different interviews with words taken out of context.

    More complete versions of interviews with video. See from 10:20.

    [video=youtube;VDoGBstgOfc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=VDoGBstgOfc[/video]

    Meaning of what was the exact opposite. They have not fired a journalist who so damped Reuters reputation?
     
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    :roflol:
    very best arguments.
     
  22. MaximRud

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    Yes. It was a different interview. But today Reuters publish audio fake made from different interviews. See in my post above.

    What I said yesterday: no matter what was actually, in the eyes of a "progressive society" Russia should be blamed. Even at the cost of a reputation of the famous news agency. And this is not a finish.
     
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    that are different audios
     
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    You have looked carefully? Will continue to argue that published by Reuters audio recording interviews is not fake?
     
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    Yes it is not fake.
    At least I didnt' find the argument about `volume` as evidence to `fake`.
     

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