Bombshell audio tape released, incriminates Trump

The file has not been declassified. Even Trump said so. Did you not bother to listen Try and catch up

 

Nope... the prosecutor does not have a case without the document.. it seems they can't find it .

Iran memo not among the 31 records underlying charges in Trump federal indictment..
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/iran-memo-not-among-the-31-records-underlying-charges-in-trump-federal-indictment/

Trump was in a pile of papers... he was reciting the New Yorker leaked classified information piece about Milley and Iran , so that may well be what was in his hands....
https://archive.is/qxwDt

So now the DOJ is trying to hold Trump accountable for releasing classified info about Milley
When
The DOJ themselves have leaked classified info to CNN about Milley
When
NYT already published an article about Milley in 2021 through leaked sources.... Trump said there were pages and pages.... and the New Yorker piece had pages and pages..

 

Pretty much spells it out..

https://twitter.com/CBS_Herridge/status/1674049403286433793

 

You are talking about anonymous sources . . . that are talking about what the DEFENSE attorneys believe? Did you think this through? Clearly not.

 

I think Trump's egg is cooked and I have no dog in this fight, but still I can't help but look at the hilarity of this situation: "She can instruct the jury to assume the content accordingly, even though it cannot be shown to them." In normal circumstances, this would be hilarious. The Jury cannot see the evidence, but it must assume that the description of the evidence is confirmed by the judge who CAN see it.

If I were a juror on this trial, I'd be ilke "Just turn it into a bench trial, as the jury is basically for show at this point.". Trials with just a judge are still a valid way to proceed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bench_trial

 

'Methinks the lady doth protest too much...' .....This would not be a situation of the judge taking over the entire verdict process...it is just a single piece of evidence to be verified by someone cleared to view it...

 

It's the most critical piece of trial evidence, and the jury will be instructed 'trust me bro, I'm the judge and I reviewed it for you'. And especially given that people have mocked her as 'Loose Cannon', I'm surprised this isn't a complaint on your side either. To me, since the judge is the only one who can see the crucial piece of trial evidence, the judge should be the only one to verdict, as it's unfair for the jury to do so.

I protest on behalf of the jury, not so much the defendant in this case. It's an unreasonable ask of a jury member.

 

Trump is not the President

 

so Trump still has not turned over all the classified docs he took?

 

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That just means that Trump has other classified files in his possession. Words spoken by Trump are important

 

Again, your protests are far too voluble…you present a scenario in which the judge will be the ONLY observer of the document and that everyone will have to take her/his word that the document is/isn’t genuine.

Have you forgotten the prosecution? THEIR people will have viewed the document. Any attempted hanky-pinky by the judge would be easily appealed…

Relax…

 

Oh, so the prosecution who has a vested interest in getting the guilty verdict can vouch for the document! There's absolutely no conflicts of interest there. And no, I'm not saying this just to be a pain. I'm saying that when one observes the nature of this case, the jury will have less of an independent review, then in traditional other criminal or even civil investigations(though I'm not sure there's juries for civil trials)

To me, given the circumstances of this trial a bench trial is far more warranted. Rather than jury members voting on something they hadn't seen, but it will be vouched for.

 

Sigh….you read, but didn’t comprehend, right? I didn’t say the prosecution would “vouch”….I said (I thought fairly clearly) that they could APPEAL a decision that seemed to be at odds with the evidence. Where did I go wrong in explaining that…?

 

I think most jurors are smarter than that and can understand what a classified document is and why they are not allowed to see it. The content of the document is irrelevant to establish guilt or innocence. They are not there to judge classification. All they need to know is that it's classified.