Booksellers sue to stop Texas law restricting ‘sexually explicit’ content

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  1. trumptman

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    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/b...ricting-sexually-explicit-content/ar-AA1en5u5

    Funny little bit of editorializing by the article author who notes the law specifically applies to sexually explicit material and then, as has been the fashion, attempts to declare that efforts to ban it are "dealing with issues of race or LGBTQ+ themes". Second insufficient compliance simply means you can't keep pleading ignorance about what you are selling to schools. It's a double edged sword and you can't have it both ways. If you don't know what you are selling, don't sell it to schools. If you do know what you are selling, it better not be porn.

    Countdown to replies ignoring the sexually explicit angle in 3....2.....1......

    That's a load of ****.

    First this lawsuit will fail. It complains that companies... have to know what they are selling. It isn't vague and ambiguous to have you rate your own materials that you are trying to sell for public schools. Second the threat of retaliation means you cannot plead ignorance when refusing to rate your own products.
     
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    We are coming for your children - Believe it when they say it. Note this is not for general bookstores, supermarkets , etc.... its specifically for sexually explicit material in books being shipped to schools.

    Believe them when they say it , we are coming for your children.'

    **** Pedos
     
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    Porn in elementary school libraries (thanks to the left) is a booming book business! I can understand them not wanting to lose their bread & butter
     
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    These books should not be aimed at children. Adult content is one thing, child content is quite another. In other words, you don't do alphabet children's books like Target was trying to sell. These books should not have even existed for Target to sell.
     
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    The Booksellers do have a point. Let's take a look at biology, shall we? Would you define a physiology book that discusses the human anatomy, including our sexual organs, as sexually explicit? what about a biology book that discusses human reproduction and animal reproduction? What about the Bible that is now sold to public schools, especially the Song of Solomon for instance? Or what about a book that is LGBTQ with the main character, a protagonist, as gay? Or how about the Diary of Anne Frank? Is that sexually explicit?
     
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    Like the diary of Anne Frank?
     
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    The problem is that ANY book with ANY sexual content, even a single scene, gets labelled "porn" buy the puritans. Which is why even the Bible is being banned. Do you agree with the Bible being banned from school libraries? I don't.
     
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    Except under the new law, it would have to be labeled. In the Diary of Anne Frank, as a young 13 year old girl, who is starting to come of age, she started "exploring herself" and wrote about that in great detail. And I will leave it at that.
     
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    So now you are complaining about "Labels"? I thought "Labels" was one of the left's favorite things!
     
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    the plaintiffs said that some legislators had expressed concern during debate on the bill that its sweeping language could restrict access to classic works such as Shakespeare’s “Romeo and Juliet,” Art Spiegelman’s graphic novel about the Holocaust, “Maus,” and even the Bible.
    WHY do TX Republicans want to Restrict Access to The Bible?
     
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    So it works like this. The state has educational standards. The publishers submit their products attesting they meet those standard. The state reserves the right to double check the work of the publisher and make a different determination if they disagree. This affects the availability of the product.

    You’d easily understand this with food. Try to understand it with books and curriculum.

    A publisher determines a book on physiology and anatomy is not sexually explicit. The state agrees. The books is bought and used. The publisher has a critical queer and equity agenda and submits a visual comic book full of how to use Grindr, enjoy anal sex, and find adult hook ups as a physiology and anatomy book. The state disagrees and the schools cannot by the book. The latter publisher, with their strident advocacy submits the same book dozens of times with minor changes but the same result, the state says no one can buy the book and that the publisher is not an approved vendor for the foreseeable future.
     
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    This law doesn't impede booksellers from selling books. It simply bans the existence of sexually explicit material in schools. It is illegal to sell explosives to schools as well.
     
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    Is the Bible sexually explicit?
    Is “And Tango Makes Two” sexually explicit?
    Is the Diary of Anne Frank sexually explicit?
     
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    Nope

    Never heard of it

    Nope
     
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    So a book speaking of women lusting after large reproductive organs and discussing abundant seminal emissions isn’t sexually graphic?

    Its a banned book about two male penguins in a homosexual union that adopt a chick that was abandoned

    So graphic details of a child discovering herself isn’t sexually explicit?


    Thank you for basically admitting it has nothing to do with sexually explicit marriage and instead is just “we don’t like gay people”. Not that anyone with more than a couple of brain cells to rub together hadn’t previously figured that out.

    Do tell — when does it become sexually explicit?
    Is it just when gay characters get involved?
     
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    Nope, because context is key. Sexual content in historical important works doesnt make historical works explicit, no matter how hard you try and compare a cartoon book with pictures of children getting BJs while wearing strap ons to the plight of the jews under nazi leadership.
     
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    No one is defending books with characters getting BJ’s, those shouldn’t be given to younger readers.

    What’s happening though is innocuous books that have a gay character in them are being banned while books with obvious sexual references are allowed because you people like those.

    So you are saying that anything that is historical isn’t sexually graphic? The cognitive dissonance is deafening.
     
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    I dont think books with gay characters should be banned in anyway. I think books that teach alternate sex methods for minors are what should be the focus. Gay relationships , parents, whatever is completely fine im my opinion.

    And to a degree, yes. You have to be aware of context when viewing art. Look at the context, origin, and time something was created. Here is example:

    Greeks competed in their Olympic games naked. Art portraying said events with naked greeks is context and reflects true history and is not sexualized.

    Painting modern Olympic event, and making everyone naked, isnt an accurate reflection and would be done with the focus of making naked people vs accurately portraying said events.

    Context is critical .
     
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    Nudity isn’t sexually explicit

    Discussions of large dicks and copious ejaculate is

    The reasoning you are giving is why we know this isn’t about the children or their innocence, it’s about bigotry. While you might not want books that simply feature a gay character banned, that is what your team is pushing with daily good success in areas they control.

    This is why these laws are so absurd and easily abused because sexually explicit isn’t defined in them. They are vague on purpose
     
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    You are wrong on #1 and #3. Both the Bible and the Diary of Anne Frank are sexually explicit.
     
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    Hummm.....they can watch porn for free on the internet, so I doubt checking it out of the library is really a factor here. They just want to stop LGBTQ+ authors from writing YA romances featuring LGBTQ+ characters for LGBTQ+ students. No more. No less.
     
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    Lol k. Do whatever you feel you must.
     
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    . . . you mean . . . read? Sure. I'll keep reading. You feel free to choose another path.
     
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    I support the intent of the law but oppose the method. Publishers shouldn't have to rate their books. If government wants certain books out of schools due to explicit material that's one thing, it's quite another to force a ratings system on the publisher. Whoever decides what books are purchased by the school - make it a fireable offense to allow certain material in the library. Problem solved.
     

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