Booksellers sue to stop Texas law restricting ‘sexually explicit’ content

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  1. jcarlilesiu

    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The State owns the schools, the schools are the customer.

    They are suing because their customer doesn't want the product they are trying to sell?
     
  2. fmw

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    No
    I don't know. I haven't heard of if.
    No
     
  3. fmw

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    Apparently so. The suit is going nowhere.
     
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    So discussions on large amount of seminal emissions and lusting after large sex organs isn’t sexually explicit to you?
     
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    There are probably portions of the Anne Frank diary that are explicit(I'd never read it). And those portions can be edited out for educational purposes. The point is that kids are there for an education, and even sex ed is specifically limited. The 'talk' traditionally is meant between parent and child, not teacher and child for very OBVIOUS reasons.

    A biology book that talks about reproduction is not sexual, because it's scientific and doesn't delve into the SEXUAL nature of it. These aren't even faithful arguments, they are distortions in an attempt to try to make an argument.

    Peeps, raise your hand if your biology textbooks were sexual in anyway. I can guarantee they weren't. This is a fad, a dangerous fad.
     
  6. AmericanNationalist

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    Movies have ratings, games have ratings. Books should follow the same lens. This is not a burden on the producer whatsoever, even if it were to be argued as a burden as demonstrated it's a burden every creator shares equally. So yeah, it'll past muster.
     
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    Books are involved in discussions? A discussion requires at least two people. As to your question I don't know. If you would like to quote these things then I can judge better. Otherwise I'll ignore this question and stand by what I said.
     
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    Ezekiel 23:20
    She lusted after her paramours, whose genitals are like those of donkeys, and whose emissions are like those of horses

    Yet your team is banning books because there is a same sex couple with no discussion of any sexually explicit material

    That’s the issues with your team — they intentionally push these vague laws with no definitions so that the groups they are actually trying to target can be done so while the ignorant base scream that isn’t what’s happening
     
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    The bible has a lot of both explicit sex and violence in it.
     
  10. Doofenshmirtz

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    Personally, I wouldn't want my children reading the bible or the gay penguin book. While the story of adopting an orphan chick is good, the penguins being gay has no value. I heard that lesbian penguins use their peckers!
     
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    No
    because it forces private companies to conform with the government’s views under threat of retaliation.
     
  12. jcarlilesiu

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    The government is the customer. lol

    Do you expect private companies to force sales on customers? To be upheld by the courts?
     
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    I don’t think that’s at all what they’re saying.

    Insufficient compliance from booksellers would bar them from doing business with public schools and subject them to open censure.

    sounds like they’re gonna punish the sellers, for schools not knowing what they’re buying.
     
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  14. jcarlilesiu

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    That's what transpired.

    Not sure what other claim there is to make.
     
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    Insufficient compliance from booksellers would bar them from doing business with public schools and subject them to open censure.

    It’s literally in the OP.
    Why should sellers be punished because someone doesn’t know what they’re buying?
     
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    Also a few sentences down the in OP

    Restricting Explicit and Adult-Designated Educational Resources (Reader) Act, is unconstitutional because it forces private companies to conform with the government’s views under threat of retaliation


    The "retaliation", or claimed punishment of censure, is driven by the perspective that the bookseller doesn't believe they have to comply with the customers views.

    Yeah, that's how it works.

    It's like saying a milkman is suing a customer because the customer doesn't like chocolate milk and the milkman wants to force them to buy it.


    This lawsuit has everything to do with the bookseller being pissed they don't get to be the ones to determine what is acceptable in school libraries. Nothing more, nothing less.
     
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    Where does it say anything about forcing them to buy from them?
     
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    Why wouldn’t you want your children reading a factual book about penguins?

    That it is two males is absolutely integral to the story
     
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    There are probably different versions of the Diary of Anne Frank. I know one version that is a picture version of the book with selected lines from the book. I think this was kids. But I also remember reading the original version of the Diary of Anne Frank when I was in high school.

    The way the bill is worded, it is possible that the publishers would not label the book, but at the same time, the school district may think otherwise and hence would be barred from selling to the school district. And that's where the problem is with the bill. And that is why the booksellers are upset because it is impossible to meet the standard that the law sets place.
     
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    It's not impossible to meet the standard, they have an editor and a proof reader for damn near every book that goes to a publishing company, review the material and rate it accordingly. It's not hard. And if a school disagrees with the rating and chooses not to purchase, that's THEIR own prerogative and tough luck for the bookselling company.

    To use a food serving example, a customer might not like the way a certain food was cooked and choose not to patronage that particular brand. Hey, maybe it was a bad cook that day, etc. Doesn't matter, the customer's within their rights.
     
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    No that's not it. They are suing because it is impossible to meet the expectations of the bill. The bill is poorly worded and the school district gets to decide whether they meet the standards or not. And that's the problem.
     
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    How is it relevant that the two have sex with each other?
     
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    Because male penguins don’t usually adopt a chick. Much less two of them.

    If it a heterosexual relationship then it would be standard. How is this confusing to you?
     
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    So males cant love each other and care for young unless they are having sex with each other?
     
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    In penguins? It’s unheard of
     

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