BORDER SHOWDOWN: Republican Governors Across U.S. Stand with Texas Against Feds

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  1. GlobalCitizen

    GlobalCitizen Well-Known Member

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    But he will. It will be sealed after the first attack on our nation from the enemies we just let walk in. Instantly. Watch.
     
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    If Biden reversed his existing EOs we could get control of the border OVERNIGHT.

    Nobody claimed he could. Now you're just deflecting

    You mean like H.R. 2. The Secure the Border Act of 2023. Introduced by Republicans on May 2, 2023.
    Still sitting on Chuck Schumer's desk who refuses to put it up for vote.

    Would you like to know whats in it that Democrats refuse to vote for?

    It would Reestablish border policy, including restarting construction on the border wall and requiring the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) to create a plan to meet benchmarks for 200 miles of construction each year;

    Reinforce the unrealistically narrow definition of “operational control” as “the prevention of all unlawful entries into the United States, including entries by terrorists, other unlawful aliens, instruments of terrorism, narcotics, and other contraband”(emphasis added);

    Require the DHS secretary to incorporate physical barriers, infrastructures, and technologies to “achieve situational awareness and operational control” at the U.S.-Mexico border;

    Increase the number of full-time Border Patrol agents to at least 22,000;

    Prohibit the use of U.S. Customs and Border Protection Air and Marine Operations resources to transport noncitizens who will not be detained into the country’s interior;

    Build on Operation Stonegarden to appropriate $110 million per fiscal year — from 2024 through 2028 — for grants to law enforcement agencies working with U.S. immigration authorities near the U.S.’s land and maritime borders;

    Require the U.S. Border Patrol to pull together a strategic plan based in part on information provided by “border community stakeholders” such as hospitals, farmers, ranchers, property owners, victims of crimes done by undocumented immigrants, and others “negatively impacted by illegal immigration;”

    Pull funding for processing noncitizens who have entered the U.S. illegally between ports of entry;

    Bar funds from being disbursed to NGOs that “facilitate or encourage unlawful activity,” defined to include unlawful entry, or that facilitate transportation, lodging, or immigration legal services for people who are inadmissible;

    Restrict the use of documents provided by DHS, such as notices to appear and work authorizations, as valid IDs at airport security checkpoints;

    Limit the CBP One phone application and other similar platforms to only be used for the inspection of perishable cargo, barring its use for the scheduling of immigration interviews for people at ports of entry;

    Mandate government reporting on migration-related economic and security ramifications to states and municipalities along the U.S.-Mexico border, including to law enforcement, school districts, healthcare providers, and farmers and ranchers; and

    Defund an alternatives to detention case management program and CBP’s shelter services program.
     
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    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    One is a choice, the other is not

    Fentynal has been in the US for years, and it has been comming from the Southern border for YEARS before Biden took office. That includes when Trump was POTUS

    Also remember that the very first bill Biden proposed as POTUS was a bill to secure drug trafficking from the southern border by increasing border patrol agents. But republicans scuttled the bill. So if your truly mad about your SIL, you should contact your republican representatives and ask the why THEY killed her
     
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    )OK< then simply answer this question:

    WHY did republicans vote against Bidens first act as president to get funding to secure the borer

    Why did republicans refuse to bring a bill to a vote that Biden said he would sign, that would close the border this week ?

    It’s simple: Republicans see the border crises as good for republican votes. They dont want to secure the border, they want to keep the it open because it’s good for them….
     
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    I have a sneaking suspicion that the terrorist cells will remain inactive until a Republican is elected president, or Iran decides that it would be to their advantage to attack Americans on their home soil for some reason. Having a weak president in place, like Biden, is to Iran’s advantage, and Biden’s open border plays right into Iran’s, China’s and Russia’s hands.
     
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    Became all Biden wants is more money to process illegals once they cross the border. He does not want to stop the flow. If he wanted to stop the flow, he would not go to court every time the state of Texas takes action to defend their border.

    If the reports about the provisions of the bill are true, it is a very bad bill. It would not stop the flow across the border until there were 5,000 illegals crossing it in one day. An Obama administration office stated that 1,000 crossing in a day was "a crisis."

    At 5,000 a day, that would allow 1,825,000 illegals in a year. Even if the law is passed, the question is, will Biden enforce it? He has the authority to use the laws Trump had available, but he won't use them. You can't trust Biden to ever do anything right. His administration is lawless.
     
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    Because it does nothing to stop illegals. All it does is provide more appointed border agents that have to comply with Bidens existing EOs to release illegals into the country.

    They provided HR 2 back in May of last year that reverses Bidens EOs. I provided it. You read it.
    But Schumer REFUSES to provide it to the Senate for a vote.

    Would you like to read Bidens EOs that have allowed over 6 million illegals into the country in just 3 years setting historical highs in every category?
    Here ya go

    1. Executive Order on the Revision of Civil Immigration Enforcement Policies and Priorities – January 20, 2021
    This is Bidens order that rescinded the prompt removal of all undocumented immigrants.

    2. Preserving and Fortifying Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) – January 20, 2021
    Bidens order to fortify the DACA program that provides relief from deportation

    3, Proclamation on the Termination Of Emergency With Respect To The Southern Border Of The United States And Redirection Of Funds Diverted To Border Wall Construction – January 20, 2021
    Bidens orders to cancel border wall projects and contracts.

    4, Executive Order on Ensuring a Lawful and Accurate Enumeration and Apportionment Pursuant to the Decennial Census – January 20, 2021
    Bidens orders to include undocumented immigrants for the 2020 Census

    5. Memorandum Reinstating Deferred Enforced Departure for Liberians – January 20, 2021
    Bidens orders that reinstated Deferred Enforced Departure (DED) program that provides temporary protection against deportation

    6. DHS Statement on the Suspension of New Enrollments in the Migrant Protection Protocols Program – January 20, 2021
    Bidens orders for the removal of the Migrant Protection Protocols (MPP) also known as the Remain in Mexico policy

    7. Executive Order on Creating a Comprehensive Regional Framework to Address the Causes of Migration, to Manage Migration Throughout North and Central America, and to Provide Safe and Orderly Processing of Asylum Seekers at the United States Border – February 2, 2021
    Bidens orders to strengthen the asylum and refugee protection systems making it harder to remove illegals making false claims

    8. Executive Order on Rebuilding and Enhancing Programs to Resettle Refugees and Planning for the Impact of Climate Change on Migration – February 4, 2021
    Bidens order on fortifying programs to resettle refugees and to examine the impact of climate change on migration.

    9. Memorandum for the Secretary of State on the Emergency Presidential Determination on Refugee Admissions for Fiscal Year 2021 – May 3, 2021
    Bidens order that increased the refugee admissions ceiling for FY 2021 from 15,000 to 62,500. Biden also reaffirmed his intention to raise the ceiling to 125,000 for FY 2022.

    Now you're just making up garbage that never existed.
     
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    He is saying he will close it immediately once congress gives him the authority.

    Why are you not demanding congress do their job when the potus is pretty much begging them to do so?
     
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    I mean you did leave out a huge amount of why they are concerned about this bill including economic damages and environmental ones.

    https://thehill.com/homenews/house/...out-border-bill-hr2-gop-shutdown-threats/amp/
     
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    Please provide these magical economic and environmental damages created by reversing Bidens Asylum EO.
    I'll wait right here
     
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    Congress already did.
    Where have you been?
    Its called H.R. 2.
    Schumer won't put it before the Senate to vote.
     
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    Why doesn't Biden simply undo day one of his presidency?
     
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    Hilarious ;)
     
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    Aren't there laws on the books for illegally crossing the border? Why should Biden get to demand Congress pass a new law that he likes before he will enforce it?
     
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    Some chose to risk it. Hardly anyone I know seeks out Fentynal. They are seeking pain pills. They don't deserve to be murdered for wanting a pill that poses no imminent danger to them. All of the casualties I know of occurred under Biden as that's when the streets filled up with Fentynal.

    I know many who do pain pills. The danger in acquiring them has skyrocketed in 3 years. Many people who would've scoffed at my concerns over the origin of the pills 3 years ago have totally changed their acquisition routines and now they will refuse to deal with anyone other than the original prescription owner. But I do acknowledge the cartel presence became obvious under Trump (not that I'm necessarily acknowledging blame on his part, although he could have some, I'm just not sure). In 2017-2018, I directly knew 2 people that supposedly died of heroin overdoses, but I and others suspect they were killed by a cartel with what is known as a hot shot (murder of a habitual heroin user by forcible injection).

    Of course I am angry at those who sought Fentynal, or sought pain pills but went to someone they knew could be shady, for making decisions that ultimately robbed their loved ones of them (especially if they left children). But my list of blame is long, and they are at the bottom.

    I blame, from most to least:
    1. The people involved at the source of most Fentynal, or components thereof, in China, whom I believe are facilitating the flow out of a desire to weaken the US (or even revenge).
    2. The cartel middlemen who facilitate the flow, or production from components, once the Fentynal or components arrive in North America.
    3. The politicians shirking their duty to pass or enforce laws that would mitigate the flow of Fentynal, or regulate the dispensing of pain pills.
    4. The pharmaceutical companies that knowingly produced much more pain pills than the country needed for decades.
    5. The local dealers who have decided to earn their living by poisoning their communities.
    6. Users of Fentynal.
    7. Users of pain pills who were not seeking Fentynal.

    As far as the new talking point circulating that Republicans voted to cut 1200 border patrol agents, I don't really believe it. I need a computer to research with speed, as I must read a lot of law and Congressional transcripts to know for sure. I don't trust either party. I believe Biden should've already been impeached, and I feel that many Republicans know it, but are not pushing it because they want to run against him. That's not right. They are doing the same as Biden imo, by failing in their duty on purpose for political gain.
     
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    I agree; Iran is content with how the situation is developing. But ISIS and many others don't care about any political condition. When it happens, suddenly we will have the will, capability, and money to seal it.

    We have killed tens of thousands of Russians in the past 2 years while simultaneously opening our border? Either this administration feels extremely confident in our enemies' lack of capability to harm us, or they simply don't care.
     
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    I agree. We think ISIS is dead because Trump took the their territory, but like a cancer, it’s still active. Biden warned Iran about a coming ISIS attack. Putin could be out for his revenge too.
     
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    The constitution doesn't allow us to “close the border”. People have a right to come to the border to apply for asylum.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remain_in_Mexico
     
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    The court did NOT find that "People have a right to come to the border to apply for asylum."


    https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...cdaf32-03c8-11e9-b6a9-0aa5c2fcc9e4_story.html

    "The decision was about whether to lift a lower court’s stay of Trump’s new asylum regulation, not on the merits of his plan. The legal fight on that could return to the Supreme Court."
     
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    Reading is fundamental….
     
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    So do it
     
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    I would ask you to do that, but since you chose to use Wikipedia rather than the actual original source like I did, you'll never drill down to the truth.
     

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