Brazil recognizes Palestinian state

It is truely sad how greatly opposed many Likudniks appear to being Semite, or to having any attachment to Semites, or other Semites. What could possible be so wrong about Semite, in their view, which could possibly motivate them to reject them so greatly?

 

Giving them their own state won't stop the terrorism committed by Hamas.

 

So, in your view, the hated Semites must murdered or forced to endlessly suffer in concentration camps, since you believe that they are unconditionally evil.

 

What are you going on about? I simply said Hamas is unlikely to stop it's terrorism toward Israel even if a state was recognized. Iran wouldn't allow them to stop.

 

>>>I can't. But then again, I identify zionism with Trotskyism and Meyer Lansky.

 

Watching the US shuffle and duck on this issue is proof enough that there is no intention to ever sanction a Palestinian State and that all 'talks ' in that regard are conspiratorial time-wasters for Israel's advantage.

 

hopefully more countries continue to join in, Argentina, Paraguay and Uruguay are also on the same path...it should be quite apparent Israeli Zionists have no intention of ever negotiating a settlement...

 

If only the world cared what Brazil's opinion is in the matter......

It really doesn't matter what uninvolved nations want. In the end, this has to be an agreement between Israel and the Palestinians.

The U.S. has been the only true champion of the cause for resolution, but even the opinion of the U.S. does not matter much unless the principals can agree.

 

The US has been very one-sided and failed terribly. It is for this reason that more and more nations are doing what is right, rather than following the bad advice of the US government.

 

but the world does care what brazil thinks and argentina too and as more countries join in the screws tighten on Israel...the US has been shown to have zero interest in changing the status quo, if it was it could have ended the issue 40 years ago...

 

The U.S. has been the arbiter of peace negotiations.

The U.S. opinion has been rather even handed considering Israel is an ally, but it's opinion does not matter because it is facilitating talks.....not dictating terms. In terms of the opinions of uninvolved countries, their opinions matter even less.

That a peace agreement has not been reached to this point is not because of the United States.....the principals (ISR and PAL) both fail to compromise to a middle ground. Both ISR and the Palestinians are to blame at this point.

They were given a choice between {Peace and Compromise} or {Conflict and Obstinacy}.......They have chosen the latter time after time.

 

How? How could the U.S. have dictated peace?

 

By applying itself to international law instead of being Zionism's gutless tart.

 

Actually, Egypt and Jordan are official Israeli allies. America is not an official ally with Israel. So, what you are saying is that the US government is automatically bias in favor of Israel, meaning that it is in no position to work towards peace, as we are demonstrated over and over again. The US government needs to withdraw from the matter, since peace is obviously not its interest.

 

My making it clear that both sides are not allowed to destroy the other nation through the expansion of illegal settlements.

By not doing so, the US made it very clear that it has no interest in achieving peace. The US goverment would rather hate and murder Semites than to recognize and accept both nations. This is a fact.

 

Brazil has now been joined by Chile in recognising Palestine.

 

LBS;

Let's see if the ' arbiter of peace ' supports the UN resolution condemning the illegal neoZionist squats.

 

If you recall; it was 1948 and the Jews/Zionists ACCEPTED Israel AND 'Palestine'.
And Israel ending up with more territory only Because of attempts by it's Arab Neighbors to wipe it out.

BTW Margot-- you throw around the term 'zionist' with malice, as moon does, but with total lack of understanding.
OR in an attempt to Slander, or Proxy Slander a whole group of people.

Please define Your own use of the term.

 

Absolutely.. I think Zionism is a pernicious ideology.. an insane reaction to the holocaust that should have passed 40 years ago... like healing from some mental illness.

Israel has always been a freeloader and often betrayed US interests in the ME.

They continue to do so for expansionist ambitions.

http://www.politicalforum.com/latest-world-news/175869-israel-ask-u-s-20-billion.html

 

Wrong on so many counts it's Laughable.

Zionism, in modern history was the creation of Herzl in the late 19th century.
It was acknowkledged widely by the end of World War I and the Jews promised a state then.. WAY before any "Holocaust".

Your answer is off the all and historically Vacuous.

Almost ALL Israeli's are "zionists", as are 97% of Jews, in that they support Israel's existence

Some may differ in their opinions of what the final borders with Palestine should be, but virtually ALL are zionists.
Including those who want withdrwal to the 1967 borders.
Just as many Americans differ on any foreign policy matter can still be Americans and patriots.

If you "just hate zionists" you hate 97% of Jews and as such, the term of art would be applicable.
!

 

No they aren't.. Many, many Jews do not nurture the fear that was natural after the holocaust.

Patriots are NOT aggressive expansionists. That's Nationalism at worK.

Israel should have gotten well over 40 years ago.. but Zionism is nourished by fear of another holocaust right around the corner.

 

A "Return to the Homeland" movement was long before the Holocaust and the Arabs were thrilled to sell their worthless land to hard working jews. Just wish it had worked faster and 6 Million plus spared by the Ovens, including but not limited to 1 Million children.

 

Let's Have to repeat again.. Clearly Margot has No idea what Zionism is and perverts history in an attempt to Slander the Jewish State and those in it.
(while daily championing her Saudi Apartheid friends. Or are they just friends?)

Again the astonishing exchange Outing her wild and biased opinions:

So Both Margot's Constant Slander of 'Zionists' (97% of Jews) and convenient/Inane perversions of History and definition are now there for all to see.

Further, Margot starts OTHER CLASSIC Transparent 'zionist' (ahem) bashing strings on Bolsheveism and too much else to recount now.
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Yes, but it was a minority position by most European Jews until the holocaust.

The first waves of Jewish immigrants came from the ghettoes of Europe and were rabid socialists.

Until Hitler most European Jews thought of themselves as Frenchmen or Poles or Germans etc.

 

Mosoltov!!! (THe only substitute I can come up with for allah u akbar from my limited knowledge of hebrew)