BREAKING: House passes a 45-day stopgap measure to keep government open, sends bill to Senate

https://www.nbcnews.com/


I had actually begun, 12 days ago, working on an OP, about this very important story, which I was titling, "SHOWDOWN AT THE CLOWN SHOW." Unfortunately, part of it disappeared into the ethers of the cyber universe, and needing to rewrite it all, was a discouragement which slowed my returning my attention to it. So I am going to stick what material I still have from that, in here, and just consider this a work, in progress.

 

How many times are we going to watch this political football game?

 

Kevin McCarthy's reckless deal-making, to become Speaker, is coming home to roost. I had actually thought, "good for him," when I'd heard that Kevin had told Matt Gaetz to "file the motion," to vacate the Chair, challenging Gaetz to remove him from the Speakership. I mean, who else could receive enough support, to be Speaker? Are some on the GOP side so out of touch with the purpose of government, that they would rather have no leader, and therefore be unable to do anything, but hold one failed vote to elect a new Speaker, after another? Given his poor hand, McCarthy could even be said to have played it well, if the objective is only considered to have been his own possession of the Speakership. Because of his unqualified support for Marjory Taylor Greene's craziness, she is now in Kevin's camp. If McCarthy was ousted from the Speakership, there would be a fair chance that he might be the only one they could elect, to replace him.

 

The stop gap measure almost didn't happen because of an insurrection.

Socialist Rep. Jamaal Bowman pulls fire alarm as Dems try to delay vote on GOP stopgap spending bill

Socialist Rep. Jamaal Bowman (D-NY) pulled the fire alarm in a House office building Saturday as Democrats tried to delay a bipartisan vote on a Republican stopgap spending bill.

The wild incident in the Cannon Building was caught on camera and confirmed by several witnesses.

“An investigation into why it was pulled is underway,” a spokesperson for the GOP-controlled Administration Committee told The Post, confirming the incident.
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“NY Democrat Jamaal Bowman literally pulled a fire alarm to stall and prevent our efforts to force a vote to keep the federal government open. Pathetic. Criminal investigation needs to happen,” said upstate GOP Congressman Nick Langworthy.

Creating a false fire alarm is a misdemeanor in the District of Columbia and punishable by up to six months in jail.

“No one in this country is above the law,” Bowman himself said just months ago in tweet attacking former president Trump and applauding his various indictments.
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“But this should not go without punishment. This is an embarrassment,” McCarthy said in a press conference Saturday.
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“This is the United States Congress, not a New York City high school. To pull the fire alarm to disrupt proceedings when we are trying to draft legislation to AVERT A SHUTDOWN is pathetic…even for members of the socialist squad,” Malliotakis wrote on X, formerly Twitter.
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Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Georgia) ripped the far-left pol for disrupting Saturday’s activities before demanding that the Department of Justice prosecute him for obstruction of an official proceeding — the same charge that has been used against January 6 rioters.

“The Democrats literally will do anything to shut OUR government down because billions aren’t going to their favorite country: Ukraine,” the conservative firebrand wrote on X, formerly Twitter.

https://nypost.com/2023/09/30/rep-jamaal-bowman-pulled-fire-alarm-as-shutdown-looms/

 

Bowman pulling the fire alarm was pure bullshit. He should be censured. And if Democrats in the House had any integrity, it would be a bi-partisan vote.

But the House is a cesspool on both sides of the aisle so I expect all the childish bullshit, of which this is just one part, will continue unabated.

 

I agree

 

I concur with what I feel most people would say about this action, of Rep. Bowman pulling the fire alarm, to try to delay a vote on a stopgap spending bill-- shortly before the government would be forced to shut down, without some such bill, no less-- as utterly irresponsible conduct, not acceptable from any member of Congress. He certainly deserves censuring, at least, for this, and I expect (hopefully) that Democrats, @Junkieturtle , will join the "ayes," in such a vote.

 

As long as the current batch of extreme republicans have any power in either chamber

 

MAGA’s got the money for Ukraine removed from the bill because that money has nothing to do with funding the government.

 

MAGAs have "got," nothing. None of those 21, even voted in favor of the stopgap measure, which just passed the House. They will not stop our support for Ukraine. Senate Republican leader, Mitch McConnell, just put out a joint statement with Democratic leader Schumer, expressing his intent to maintain this support. So I only wonder on what, you think your baseless statements, are founded?

 

The bill lacks additional funding for Ukraine!

 

Oh, does this need be a remedial-level conversation? Ukraine aid at present, has already been fully funded. We don't send Ukraine a weekly check. We authorize certain amounts, for certain purposes, which are paid, up front, and then Ukraine ultimately receives any aid which takes time to be manufactured, as ammunition, from private industry. IOW, there is no need for more money for Ukraine, next week. Can you follow? There will need be a supplemental funding bill, at some point-- which is what McConnell & Schumer issued a joint statement, about their fully intending to pass, and gave an approximate timeline (though I now can't recall, for when they were slating that).

 

It's been the same bullshit for sixty years? Goes to show that people never wise up and Washington knows it..

Try watching old fifty and sixty's shows, same ass old crap only in black and white and crappy audio..

 

This anomaly is hardly a party problem, it's we the people that are asleep at the helm.. Take it for what it's worth, the internet forum thing, ain't going to change a damn thing..

Not a gawddanm thing!!!

 

Update: Senate passes the House bill, to fund government, short term, 88 to 9. Still finishing up with procedural actions, before rushing this to the White House, before midnight.

(The who were not present, were Presidential Primary contender Tim Scott; and a Michigan Senator, with Covid. Obviously, the Senate is short by one member, with Diane Feinstein's recent passing).

 

@flyboy56

In case the alert I sent you, didn't work-- because I had added it, in an edit to another post-- I just wanted to let you know that, despite my condescending attitude toward your last post, and maybe without your realizing why this was so, you'd actually had a valid point. I just heard that the funds for Ukraine won't last for the full 45 days of the continuing resolution, keeping open the government. This doesn't negate my point, that many Republicans (especially in the Senate), still plan on passing another package of aid to Ukraine, before this runs out. But I hadn't known that our aid is so vital to Ukraine's cause, that even a short lapse between packages, is considered a serious problem. So, never let it be said, I don't admit my mistakes, or acknowledge others' having been right. Even if the things I'd related, hadn't been known to you-- nevertheless, I'm sorry that my seeming need to explain something basic, led to my tone of speaking down to you. No hard feelings, I hope.


P.S.-- I still don't know, though, if you were right to credit the Freedom Caucus, for this not being included in the bare bones, basic CR, rushed through the House, to beat the midnight deadline-- for which bill, none of the 21 malcontents, voted. But at least indirectly, you could attribute that situation, to the chaos they're bringing to government. This is not a good thing, by the way.

 

It’s expensive to run a war against an enemy like the Russians. And there is no end in sight.

 

Who themselves, are running so low on supplies, like ammunition, that it has forced them to go, babushka in hand, to North Korea. Not to mention the drones, they've been getting from Iran. And sundry supplies from China, including MREs.

This conflict is taking on the feel of a superpower proxy war, fought between two smaller forces. Or, perhaps, some American political contest for a state position, that is not normally a high profile race-- like a judgeship--but into which, loads to out of state, PAC & special interest money have flowed and surged, to flood the airwaves with an inescapable deluge of political advertising.

 

I'm teaching grades six, seven, and eight this year. I think if I visited Bowman's office, I'd feel right at home!

 

Think about this, the US borrows money from China so we can send it to Ukraine to fight Russia who we know has allied with China. Do you see where this is going?

 

Funny-- I never thought of it, that way! Pretty F'd up, too.


EDIT: While the principal cause for war, is often cited as poverty & limited resources-- this could be taken to support the truth of the expression:
Mo' money-- mo' problems!

 

Is Biden doing this for China’s benefit because I fail to see how it benefits the other players involved.

 

BREAKING NEWS (Update):

Rep. Matt Gaetz files his motion, to vacate the Speaker Chair, setting up a 16th vote, on McCarthy's speaker candidacy.

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WHAT TO WATCH FOR
A vote is required within two days and could result in McCarthy losing his position as speaker if a majority of lawmakers vote in favor of Gaetz’s resolution. Talking to reporters outside the Capitol earlier Monday, Gaetz conceded that McCarthy “probably” can survive the vote, but with the narrow majority Republicans hold, if all 212 Democrats decide to remove him, the effort will only need six Republican votes.
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fo...in-mccarthy-as-house-speaker/amp/?bshm=rime/2


As I've said, elsewhere, I think it is short-sighted of Democrats, if they allow McCarthy to be deposed, since there seem no prospects for anyone better, on the Republican side. Though they will no doubt suggest Democratic leader Jeffries, as an alternative, there is no realistic hope of that happening. If McCarthy survives, with a little help from Dems, that will likely make him feel less at the mercy of, & so in need of always appeasing, the far right "Freedom" crowd.

 

Good post.

I think the main driver here though, is the radical faction of the Republican Party, Getz, Green, Bobert etc, who all called in their markers to McCarthy for their vote on his speakership. We all knew this day would come, but the “House jerk-off caucus” is now calling in their markers and its gunna get ugly. These 5-10 radical righties will burn the country before they give in to anything. These people are not smart(probably the dumbest people to ever serve in congress), and they are the perfect patsies for the radical wing of the Republican Party. These radicals are not a bug in the gerrymandering game, they are by design.

BOBO, Goetz and MTG, and the Tubbervills of the congress are useful idiots of those that want America to fail or at a minimum to be brought to the edge.These people really believe that we need to strip america down so they can rebuild it in their image.

 

Most of things you say, are clearly true. But I am perplexed by your seeming to say that the Gaetz's in Congress, are only tools, of others-- yet, without naming those others. It has been my view that these Representatives on the far Right, at least all those we are always hearing about, are calling their own tune. That is, they act as they do, with their own benefit (i.e., staying in office) being their primary consideration. This would be contrary to the idea of their being "useful idiots," or "patsies." I agree with the notion that has previously been proposed: that the idiots, being played, here, would only be those voting for and financially supporting the Freedom Caucus gang. Then again, many of their constituents may themselves, favor the tearing down of our government.