~~> BREAKING: Sanders to endorse Clinton at event Tuesday

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  1. JakeJ

    JakeJ Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    His life history is of opposing Wall Street, big banks and mega corporations, including their influence in government. Hillary & Bill Clinton have PERSONALLY amassed way over 100 million dollars selling influence to Wall Street, big banks, and mega corporations. Those people are financing Hillary Clinton now and endorsing her now. Bernie Sanders condemned Hillary Clinton dozens of times for this specific reason but looks like now will 100% switch sides and join them.

    After the election they're going to kick his ass out the door and Clinton, if she wins, will not do one thing she promised to him she'd do - because in the entire decades long political career neither Bill Clinton nor Hillary Clinton ever even attempted to do so. When the election is over, Sanders is nothing, nobody, just a traitor to himself for 1 hour of the Democrat elites and lobbyists cheering him at a convention. He then becomes irrelevant even to himself.
     
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    For those of us who support Johnson or Stein, this will not make one iota of a difference. You guys still gave us a choice of Trump or Clinton. That choice is still there with Sanders endorsement of Clinton. I don't want to see either one get within a hundred miles of the Oval office. Both are poison to this country. Does it matter if you take arsenic or cyanide? You're just as dead. Trump, Clinton same, same. The only real difference is the R and the D, but that don't make one of them any better than the other.
     
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    You both got it wrong, it is a vote against Trump and Clinton. My vote is for Johnson, not for Hillary or Trump. It is against two of the most disgusting candidates and obnoxious candidate either major party has offered in my lifetime and I was born under Truman at the end of WWII. Over half of all Americans do not want either to be their new president. You guys are deluding yourself. There is no like for either one, only dislike. That is outside of their supporters.
     
  4. MAYTAG

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    Did you know that the CIA's determined efforts to demonize McCarthy and ruin his name by manipulating media coverage has all been exposed to the public by whistle blowers and declassified CIA documents?

    Did you know that those whom McCarthy accused of being communists are in league today or were predecessors to the same people who have arranged for communist oppression to be the backbone of their globalist economy through free trade?

    History books still teach a false "witch hunt" narrative of Joe McCarthy even though it is a publicly revealed fraud. I know you know that.
     
  5. bigfella

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    Nope. The 'witch hunt' narrative is correct in relation to McCarthy. The real work of removing Communists from government had largely been done before McCarthy decided he could wring some political advantage out of it. It was so successful that the USSR had shut down most of its operations before he even started. In fact, he did more harm than good to the process of weeding out the remaining spies.

    Why conservatives continue to defend him is one of the enduring mysteries of the universe. He is a poster child for the dangers of opportunistic populism. Of course, the fact that he viewed liberals as 'traitors' may be dear enough to the hearts of conservatives that they don't care how much damage he did to the cause of defeating Communism.

    From the folk at Frontpagemag - not exactly a bastion of Ivy League liberalism - an article by one of the foremost experts on the Venona Archive. Read the whole article:

    http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/212053/setting-record-joe-mccarthy-straight-harvey-klehr
     
  6. MAYTAG

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    Some of the people accused by McCarthy actually have since been revealed as Soviet spies, but that is hardly the point I am making.

    What McCarthy misidentified as "communism" in those days was actually the developing form of globalism that has become the underlying mainstream ideology of both parties today. Instead of a workers' revolution, their goal was to use central banking to quietly assume financial control of the world's nation states, which they have largely succeeded in doing since the failure of the so-called "witch hunt" and the subsequent contrived media character assassination of Joe McCarthy that was exposed by the whistleblowers of Operation Mockingbird as being a CIA operation.

    Your own quote admits McCarthy was right about the big picture, right before it moves into the complete RED HERRING that most of the accused were not Soviet spies or technically "communist". In fact, western globalists, despite some ideological similarities to Soviet communism, have always viewed Russia as an enemy to their own ambitions of global domination. McCarthy wasn't aware that he was exposing something much different from communist infiltration, but we have the advantage of hindsight to recognize that those he accused were not communist, but globalist. We have the declassified CIA documents which prove those who purposefully soiled his reputation were known globalists.

    The deception you are parroting here may have worked wonderfully in the 50s, but there is no excuse for anyone today to be so uninformed.
     
  7. bhoyal

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    Kaine is now up to 47% probability of being the Dem runningmate on PredictWise at the same time HRC probability of winning in Nov. has matched it's high water mark of 76%.

    And the Bernie endorsement is just over 24 hours away...
    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/bernie-sanders-join-hillary-clinton-hampshire-rally/story?id=40487166

    quote:

    Bernie Sanders will be joining Hillary Clinton at a New Hampshire rally Tuesday, according to a statement released by Clinton campaign this morning.

    The event will take place at Portsmouth High School at 11 a.m.
     
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    It's a Faustian bargain by Sanders. Poor fool. Hillary is no sooner going to keep her word on promises than her mentor, Obama did.
     
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    Of course Bernie will do exactly what he is told to do just like a good bought and paid for democrat. I bet his fools that donated their $27.00 to bern- Hillary don't even care.
     
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    Maybe they should send 27 buck to HRC... back the winner who is going to win in November.

    People keep forgetting that she won by 4 million votes over bern in the primary season. He won a bunch of small states and some states that have virtually no Democrats... but look at New York, New Jersey, California, etc. - HRC bigtime.
     
  11. Troianii

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    Sanders has said that Clinton is:

    not qualified to be President, in cahoots with Wall Street, corrupt, a liar, etc. and this is the person he wants you to vote for.

    Many of his supporters will see him for the sellout that he now is. Not all, of course, but many. Clinton will need to do more to shore up the progressive vote if she wants to count on it turning out in force.
     
  12. bhoyal

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    Sanders has said about trump: "The American people will never support a candidate whose major theme is bigotry. We will not allow Donald Trump to become President."
    “We have got to do everything that we can to defeat Donald Trump and elect Hillary Clinton,” He also said he did not think the country would survive four years of Donald Trump.
    http://crooksandliars.com/2016/07/bernie-sanders-we-must-defeat-donald-trump
     
  13. Hoosier8

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    No more periods. Too old.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Of course. That is what political opponents do. Surprised or something?
     
  14. phil white

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    What Trumpism is is a peasant revolt against Political Correctness, anti-Americanism, off shoring, mass immigration and the destruction of the white working and middle classes.
    Rush Limbaugh gave a couple of talks on Sam Francis's prediction of a coming populist/nationalist revolt in 1996.

    http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2016/01/20/understanding_trump_s_appeal

    I knew Sam Francis personally. Sam's book was "Revolution from the Middle."
    There is a reason that George Soros financed BLM movement is attacking/rioting at Trump rallies. Soros and company are scared.
    I don't think this phenoma is going away.:salute:
     
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  16. Andrew Jackson

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    Everybody expected a Sanders endorsement. So Sanders is doing the expected.

    85+% of his people will be with Hillary in the fall.

    Trump is toast.
     
  17. bigfella

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    Oh dear. One of those. OK, I'll just quietly tiptoe out of the room & leave you to scream at the shadows on the wall. Just make sure that tin foil hat isn't too tight.
     
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    Meh. Speaking as a former "Bernie-bot" myself, all this did was ensure that I never vote Democrat again. No matter who it is or what their platform is.

    Yes, their attempt at "unity" just lost my vote for good. Funny how that works.
     
  19. liberalminority

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    Sanders has no conviction or integrity if he honors his pledge of supporting clinton.

    his integrity was found in his message, and if he leaves his message to support a pledge based on corruption that's his character and legacy that he worked his entire life for, that will be judged dishonorably.

    he would have been honorable in sending his support to Jill Stein, and that would mean a Trump win. but it would have been honorable to lose that way, and whats best for the country in the long run are honorable decisions.
     
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    Operation Mockingbird is declassified and public record. Part of that program was a contrived effort to discredit anyone who speaks out about government corruption by painting them as crackpot conspiracy theorists. You are duped by the media, which from its infancy was controlled by the CIA, an obsolete alliance in today's world where all mainstream media outlets are owned by the same world bankers who controlled the CIA then.

    Your ability to dismiss something that is proven on public record is proof that you are brainwashed. A rational minded person can not do that.
     
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    LOL. You are funny.Lying to the party he joined, to his followers and to the nation by pretending to support its nominee, when he knew he was going to sabotage it later when he did not get what he wanted, by endorsing a different party's nominee is now to be defined as an act of character! That is hilarious. He has known and worked with Hillary Clinton for over a decade before he contemplated this run as colleagues in the Senate. He knew that this woman was the likely nominee when he first uttered his pledge in January. Hell, he had her in mind when he first said those words.

    You do not get to pick out the part of his message that is most convenient to the Republican Party and its slimy and amoral nominee, a party that he has detested as the very definition of corrupt, and rebrand it's victory as more moral and claim they are his standards you are applying for him.

    It was not 'leaving his message' to support the Democratic nominee. His message included supporting the party nominee as much as it included anything else he said or did. When he joined the party, that very act represents part of his message. Supporting the party he was using, rather than just exploiting the party is also an act of character.
     
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    Right? I'm surprised in myself for even briefly being deluded that he was not working for them all along. Socialism plays right into the bankers' hands. I honestly thought Bernie was a well meaning idiot for a time, when he refused to drop out. That he wanted to hurt the banks, but didn't understand how he would actually help them with his policies.

    But Bernie's no idiot. Just another globalist pawn. We, the people, are the idiots again.

    I guess we can be proud of how close we came this time. People are waking up. But the ones who aren't are sinking even deeper into mental illness. It may well come to war.
     
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    he would have been the better man for his life's work and legacy if he endorsed jill stein, and let Trump win. whether a democrat or republican is in office, the rich still win, so it changes nothing but his character.

    Sanders had to get his message out to the people, and the only way to do it was to run as a corrupt demon rat instead of independent which he is.

    if we are going to judge his morals then forgiving breaking a corrupt pledge to the demon rat party which insulted him, humiliated him, bullied him, and cheated him out of a fair race much less victory, is more honorable than endorsing such a party.
     
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    Bernie is doing the right thing to ensure Trump's defeat. Case closed.
     

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