~~> BREAKING: Sanders to endorse Clinton at event Tuesday

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  1. Andrew Jackson

    Andrew Jackson Well-Known Member

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    Of course, one vote won't matter in the overall scheme.

    The protestations of a random internet person won't change one opinion.

    Certainly there maybe some holdouts from the hard-core Bernie or Bust crowd, but in the end Hillary can count on 85+% of them voting for her in the fall.

    That is how elections work.

    Best of luck on picking your candidate. Whether it be Trump, Johnson, Stein or writing in Mickey Mouse.
     
  2. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    so you would let Trump become President, just for spite?
     
  3. bhoyal

    bhoyal Active Member

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    Did somebody say something??? I can't hear you.

    :roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol:

    Bernie Sanders endorses Hillary Clinton
    http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/11/politics/hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders/index.html
    12:11 PM ET, Tue July 12, 2016
     
  4. Telekat

    Telekat Member Past Donor

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    I dislike Hillary and Trump equally, so it really doesn't matter to me which one wins.

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    We'll see in November. Even so, my random internet person vote matters to me. And it's not going to Hillary.
     
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    might as well vote for trump, he is at least anti-establishment and that is really what we need.. we need change to the political system.
     
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  7. Checkerboard Strangler

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    Now we are shedding and dumping all of the fair weather friends, they can all go vote for Jill Chemtrails if they want, and then go back to sleep for 3.5 years.
    75% OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE right this minute promising to vote for Jill Stein and abandoning Bernie Sanders will become HARD CORE NEOCONS in five years or less after they hit the wall, and they will run around trying to convince their new conservative friends that ALL LIBERALS THINK THE WAY THEY USED TO THINK.

    Jill Stein does HAVE her faithful supporters to be sure, but I am talking about the ones who are ready to jump ship and climb aboard her bandwagon right this minute, today, July 12, 2016.
    Give them a couple more failed HARDCORE socialist elections where they barely register a blip on the radar and they will throw the whole thing out the window and turn Republican or worse, Republicans for Jesus.

    If you trusted Bernie's leadership as a candidate, you should continue to trust it now.
    I often wonder what the world would have been like if we had gotten eight years of HHH as president instead of Dick Nixon.
    I don't know, but I lived through him and then had to live through eight years of Reagan, and then Bush and then Bush, Jr. NONE OF WHICH probably would have become President had it not been for Nixon.

    And now some are even saying that they would rather see Trump win, just to teach us all a lesson.
    When people say they'd rather see Trump win rather than vote for Hillary, what I hear is, "I can survive a Trump presidency and screw those who can't."
    If that is what you think, you're basically telling ME, and my wife, and our two kids (one gravely ill) that we can go **** ourselves.
     
  8. Papastox

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    Sellout! No big surprise...maybe he was offered some Cabinet position...
     
  9. btthegreat

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    I am not surprised that you so characterize the Democratic party. It is consistent with your views and your agenda. I realize exactly why he joined the party. It was the only way to get his leftist ideological message out. He was able to sell his quasi socialist platform to a broader American public by joining the democratic party and getting into the debates. I think it a wonderful idea. he was straightforward and honest about it. But there does exist a price to use the democratic party and borrow its institutions, its primary system, its rules. He had to commit to support the party and its nominee, even after it was no longer useful to his agenda. As a democrat, I voted for him because he made that promise.

    He was not bullied, and he sure was not cheated. The rules that the states picked were basically already in place before he decided to run. The open primaries were open. The closed primaries were closed, and the caucuses were caucuses. Clinton had already established her infrastructure and her treasure chests were quick to fill. This too was no surprise to Sanders or O'Malley or any pundits. The only unknown was Biden. Life happened and Biden chose not to run and this allowed Clinton to further consolidate. None of that is 'cheating' That the DNC came up with a tactical plan for Hillary's nomination beforehad was also not cheating. It was a good use of DNC resources and time. If Sanders or O' Malley had begun to win, they would have just done different research and come up with a new plan.

    Sanders did not win. Sanders did not come close to winning. He was never ahead in votes. He was never ahead in states. He was never ahead in delegates. There is no cheating when those realities result in an eventual nominee.

    Your bitterness is unbecoming and rather sad. Just celebrat what he actually accomplished and stop blaming him, or the Democratic party because your unrealistic expectations did not get fulfilled.
     
  10. JakeJ

    JakeJ Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Bernie Sanders became the ultimate betrayer. In the all he did was deliver young Democrats to now being loyal to global corporate fascism and the elite super rich. The Democrat Party as it was has ended and no longer exists.
     
  11. JakeJ

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    In the end, how Wall Street, big banks and global corporations used Bernie Sanders to their own benefit was brilliant tactically. They had him gather up all the liberals and progressives who should totally hate Wall Street Hillary and had him - in the end - deliver all to them. Total takeover of the Democratic Party. The next step is to totally take over the US government via Hillary Clinton. In the end, Bernie was the perfect Judas goat.
     
  12. btthegreat

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    In the end, as long as there is only a two party duopoly, the best we can do, is move those parties, leftists acting outside them, whether we are talking Nader or Stein means taking the microphone away and chopping off the hands of your cause. They have accomphished either nothing or harm. Independent bids from the right, whether we are talking Anderson, Wallace, or that Texan with the charts, also got nowhere. Its no different in the GOP. Trump is a card carrying corporate stooge. Essentially no different than Romney or Bush for all his blather, he has been completely dependent on corporate dollars for his revenue, as a crappy businessman or as a Presidential candidate. Now that he realizes how expensive a general campaign is going to be he's all hustle.

    Trump is the perfect judas from the right.

    Clinton is far better than Trump if you don't want corporations running roughshod over the working man. That is why unions are endorsing Clinton.
     

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