Breakthrough promises $1.50 per gallon synthetic gasoline with no carbon emissions

UK-based Cella Energy has developed a synthetic fuel that could lead to US$1.50 per gallon gasoline. Apart from promising a future transportation fuel with a stable price regardless of oil prices, the fuel is hydrogen based and produces no carbon emissions when burned.

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Comment: how long before the oil companies gobble this one up and keep it from the people?

 

i bet it takes alot more fuel/coal to make then there are benifits of synthisising your own fuel.

 

Heck we have cars that can run on water, we have so much potential for good clean energy which isn't finite. But the big corps and oil men can't hold their monopolys if they allow the people a cheap and renewable power source.

 

I agree with Robodoon as more and more cars become environmentally friendly

 

Large corporations would buy the rights/patent and sell the fuel for $1.50 per gallon as the sole distributor. Acetone that enables a zillion miles per gallon, carburetors that enables 200 miles per gallon, pixie dust that enables 300 miles per gallon are all available from your neighborhood Martian.

 

Carburetors?

Gee, does anybody even make a car with a carburetor anymore? I think the last vehicle I owned that had one was my 1988 Toyota Pickup.

 

Hydrogen requires more energy than it produces.

Topic - Sure, good luck with that... I'll believe it when I see it.

 

Hydrogen is very energy intensive to produce. It may be one of the most plentiful elements but breaking its bond with oxygen takes a lot of energy. Most scams like this like to ignore all the energy that went into producing their fuel. Its like the afore mentioned water car. Only dupes fall for that because they all use an energy intensive hydride. The hydride is the fuel source not the water. Only ignorant dupes fall for that one.

This technology is really more of a hydrogen storage tech than a true fuel.

 

Sorry you guys, all it is is a better way of generating hydrogen. It does not produce petrol. Look at their website http://www.cellaenergy.com/.

Edit. Or is that of just storing the stuff?

 

Its really just for storing stuff. Basically what they are saying is hey we have this nice liquid hydride that can replace gs in a combustion engine, now if someone can invent a way of making the hydrogen free it would only cost $1.50 a gallon. But then the question comes to how much energy is in this gallon. Most hydrogen "fuels" don’t have much energy density so I would guess that your millage off that gallon is a lot less than off of gas.

 

That said hydrogen storage tech is a potentially very useful thing and a lot of money is going into researching it from different angles.

In particular this is supposed to be a method for storing it in such a way that existing infrastructure and engines can use it. And that could be just the thing we're looking for.

Obviously it takes more energy to make the stuff than you get back. But the difference is that while we have to import oil from countries we might have to bomb we've got plenty of Uranium to produce electricity, or, since this is a way to store energy, it might be a good use for solar and wind power.

 

Oil is very energy intensive to produce as well. Electrolysis is very efficient, it's just difficult to pull off at industrial scales.

 

Cheap fuel is more important than environment-friendly fuel. Thats the reality.

I am all for enviro-friendly alternative fuels...but not if they are more expensive than gas or if we need to wait for a huge infrastructure upgrade.

 

I think combustion engines might themselves eventually fade with much more lightweight cars powered by motors. Yes they'd probably be less able to protect against certain kinds of impact, but then, two very small cars hitting each other would be less damaging than two big ones, so it'd be an advantage overall in safety as well. I mean, which is worse-two cars hitting each other or two semis? Extrapolate this to two very lightweight elastic cars, and you see that the main problem would be whiplash, instead of a huge amount of metal and other materials crushing you, in a wreck.

 

It depends on exactly what environmental effects it would cause.

 

this is the first...and last time we'll be hearing about this...

 

No kidding. Corporations..politicians..their love-making kinda makes it hard to progress sometimes.

 

We never hear about them again because they were frauds to begin with. They get their funding for further research and fold up shop. That’s how hydride scams work.

 

First, regarding the current cost of fuel, in my area yesterday I paid $3.65/gallon for 87 octane. If gasoline prices follow the typical trend of increasing as summer approaches, I suspect we might see $4.50-$5.00/gallon gasoline this summer. It will be interesting to see how our fragile and questionable economy handles this.

Regarding $1.50/gallon fuel from this thread, the problem always is how much energy must be used in order to create something?

The interesting thing for me about all the mpg talk is that for decades we have had options to buy vehicles which give us 35-45mpg performance...yet these vehicles are not in favor for most people. Government is chicken (*)(*)(*)(*) to force much higher mpg standards for fear of the economic impacts. So...if mpg was a big fricken deal, government would mandate higher mpg standards, and/or, consumers would buy higher mpg cars. Since neither of these is happening, I suspect it will take something like $5/gallon gasoline for prolonged periods of time, to slap everyone in the face about a potential oil crisis...

 

acetone is highly corrosive when burned...what good is it when it destroys your engine?

 

the Navy developed a membrane that separates oxygen and hydrogen from sea water..but it costs more to make than running a car on $5 gas for a 100 years.

 

a gallon of gas has as much energy as a stick of dynamite, liquid hydrogen is about half that.

 

Why not burn the hydrogen in the form of natural gas?

It is less polluting, less expensive, proven technology, and available domestically.

And a CNC Honda Civic is not much more expensive than a conventional auto.

Many diesel trucks have already converted and more are converting every day.

And the last time I checked it was less than $1.50 a gallon.

 

That's the enduring fairy tale.

 

My dad (God rest his soul) used to tell me about working on a car that runs on water.

It used heat to separate the hydrogen from the oxygen. the only problem was that it used too much energy to generate the heat.