Building 7 was the most obvious example of the 3 that fell

SO?

heh heh, its a conspiracy!

So you think you are going to make some hay today do ya?

This is whats at 6.40 LOL
The tanks were filled with water so they could not ignite.


Well take your best shot, mean time here is a couple things for you.

Its not obvious to the casual viewer but see if you can find the load of bricks that are about to come crashing down on your head.

 

"the basic wing structure, remains intacked".

 

didnt anyone take a physics class in high school or college? or has things changed so much now that they dont over that class any more....maybe they dropped physics to make room for lgbt freedom rights...

 

I keep seeing an animated gif of a test crash showing a wing hitting a pair of wooden telephone poles. I'm not sure why I keep seeing the .gif.

Look at my last post!

Because I posted the part you think is going to help your case upmteen times and you failed to respond, you wanted to do a little fishing first LMAO

I posted the full video pages back. There's a much better camera angle in the full video that shows the impact from a view parallel to the wing. At this angle, you can see that the 13" thick wooden pole closest to the fuselage is sheared by the wing, rather than the other way around. The narrator even makes a point of stating that the basic wing structure remains intact.

Oh you mean the STRONGEST part of the wing between the fuselage and the engine that bears force of the engine weight bouncing pulling etc etc etc.... that part the strongest part right?

Also of note is the fact that the wing in the test video is the wing of a DC-7. This wing is supported by a structure engineered to carry the load of 2 - 2600lb radial engines and has a maximum take off load of 61,000 lbs. The wing on a 757, conversely, carries a 7200lb jet engine, and has a maximum load of more than 120,000lbs.

oh? So how will that 1 ton difference effect this problem since the poles hit outboard of the engines on the weakest part of the wing?

Is seems quite obvious

No it is not obvious if its obvious by all means tell us why its obvious since the outboard wing is the weakest part hit not only 2 but 3 poles at 500 mph at over 1million psi each time according to candy and they stayed intact.

that the study represented by the animated gif shows that a much weaker wing than the wing of a 757 was able to shear off a 13" wide wooden pole and retain its integrity. If this animated gif is being used by a truther to show that the wing wouldn't survive the impact, then, like typical truther evidence, the reality is exactly the opposite.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrIZd53Gl4E

The magic happens at 6:40

20% is not MUCH weaker and the bulk of its strength is between the fuselage and the engine NOT the engine and the wingtip.

The poles at the petagon DID NOT HIT INBOARD of the engines they hit the WINGTIPS Just like this one:








Thats only round one.

 

you really shouldn't smoke.

 

already laid his arguments to waste.
wait till you see my trump card if he has the balls to let it get that far.

 

so far all you have done is bluff with 2 3 off suit...now you are going to go all in? better dont ever try playing poker dude..any 7 year old would spank you silly

 

Nah his problem isnt that I am right, his problem is how to make it "appear" that I am wrong, reality not withstanding.

Like I said I already laid his arguments to waste, this (*)(*)(*)(*) is irrefutable and frankly very simple on its face. Well to some people anyway.

Poker does not have trump cards btw.

 

Jojo is a 'trougher', he readily admitted it several times. No idea why he crows over his own lies so proudly.

Fang has cleaned Jojo's clock. Again.

 

Since you brought it up.........

did you ever notice that liars always accuse another lying just before they tell their big lie? So transparent troughers are.

Oh and you have it bassackwards as usual eh...

Truther is spelled T-R-U-T-H-E-R,

NOT T-R-O-U-G-H-E-R

Looks to me like jojo falls into the "truther" bracket and you fall into the "trougher" bracket. (see the above definitions)

If you are a person who typically argues for the governments fantasy then people would most likely consider you a trougher. See the above definition. Then again if you generally argue that 911 was fraudulent then you would fall into the category of truther.

This is not real difficult. You just need to understand relationships, something that truthers notice troughers are severely handi capped.

oh and the prove is that fang has not even answered me yet and you think he cleaned my clock, at least wait until he responds to my challenges, it doesnt look so biased and well downright foolish.







I sincerely hope this helps you sort things out and better grasp how words relate to subject matter.

Since you brought it up n all.

 

Yes, all you troughers are very transparent, Jojo.

 

What would possess you to say something so looney? koko is a trougher?

I suppose that makes you a truther huh?

 

Because your face is firmly in the trough, Jojo.

Nope, I'm not a truther: I can think for myself.

 

Sure you do.

so you have nothing to back your bull(*)(*)(*)(*) up.

Anyone can look at my posts and what group of people I argue against "troughers" and they can likewise see what group you argue against "truthers".

Suffice to say it would be impossible for any sane person to conclude anything but your assessment is completely delusional.

sorry man there is no kind way to paint it.

why dont you help fang with those challenges I posted for him. I get a kick out of how he indirectly drops a word here and there.

Get in their man get some off script experience! It will look good on your resume!

 

They certainly can.

And it's just more proof that you are a 'trougher'. (as well as a 'truther', but that goes without saying.) You have defined yourself by your position in the trough.

Bon Appétit, Jojo. Keep derailing and making the 'truthers' look crazier than they already are.

 

it doesnt get any more twisted that!

 

I wonder what effect, if any, ground effect or wake turbulence had on the poles.

Ever have a car pass you at 65+ and feel the effect of its drag turbulence?

 

If I remember correctly the engines were maxed as well, I can only imagine that would increase the chaos around the plane.

 

LOL you speak of ground effect and its effects on the lift of a wing due to compress-ability near the surface and not once do you ever question how a man who has never flown a large jet liner and had problems with small single engine cessna, somehow majestically coordinates a perfect descending corkscrew approach at damn near maximum cruise speed in the most heavily guarded airspace of the entire nation, thirty minutes after the last plane struck the second tower in New York and your question is about compress-ability effecting poles due to the ground effect?

 

Disinformation specialists have a way with words, don't they?

"Anybody" could have done the magic flying act, is probably what they'll tell you.

 

No magic here, just evidence.

Not anybody could have piloted the plane. (For example: a pot smoking, drug dealing, college dropout son of a failed IT worker couldn't do it)
Anybody with the training Hani Hanjour had could, though.
Pretty much anyone could have crashed it into one of the biggest buildings around.

 

Here we are in a WTC7 thread talking about the impact of a 757 with a telephone pole hundreds of miles away, and the truthers want to know why no one has changed the subject to necessary pilot skill.

Typical

 

Wow great point!

Its the same principle that lefty talked about with the closed no hole chimney effect on the wtc.

osama bin laden had another secret weapon weapon in his arsenal, and while they were chimnitizing the wtc also turbulating the poles.



devastating!

 

you can thank the trougher foolishness for taking it there however thats known as thread drift.

When this point is resolved it will drift back, thats the way threads work

 

well as you can see, they cant prove anyone wrong, their whole operation is merely to create doubt in the ranks of the uninformed,

Of course every now and so often they can feel that vice of truth clamping down around their balls and starting to squeeze out the bull(*)(*)(*)(*).






thats when they start screaming foul play and not fair and dishonor those killed and wind turbulence and any unimaginable foolish (*)(*)(*)(*).

They are terrified



and will do or say ANYTHING to divert attention from that BIG TRUTHER thats about to fall on their orwellian heads.


Of course many people understand the game now days, you certainly do.

He wont refute the challenge and if he does it will be some obscure meaningless or misapplied bs