Bus drivers refuse to transport Jewish people to pro Israel rally

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  1. modernpaladin

    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    In this case 'allow' = 'continue employing'. Drivers that want to make their own policy can either negotiate it with their boss (and 'no Jews' would not be an acceptable policy if I was boss) or they can go start their own bus company.

    Unions can make this difficult, which is why I asked if this was a union thing.
     
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  2. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So if another company employs that person after they are fired, is that other company also equally as "responsible"?
     
  3. modernpaladin

    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well ya. Unless that other company is prevented from enforcing its own policy on its own employees by a union. Then I would say the union is responsible.
     
  4. Doofenshmirtz

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    I don't think that is a reasonable defense.
     
  5. Zorro

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    If they allow it, yes.
     
  6. Zorro

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    I'm conservative. If the Company doesn't respond appropriately to this gross human rights violation, they are likely exposed to damages.
     
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    The company can argue that it's an independent act of will, if on knowledge they responded appropriately.
     
  8. Zorro

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    You do know that Plessy v. Ferguson hasn't been good law for 70 years, right?
     
  9. Polydectes

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    What if the bus company fired the driver? Are they still responsible because they didn't know the thoughts of the person when they hired him?

    If I ran a bus company and I discovered that my driver wasn't transporting people based on racist or political reasons they'd be fired immediately.

    I've worked for companies before that I wasn't allowed to bring my politics into the company and that's the way it should be. The best way to get the most customers or writers in this case and that's the best profit is to be as neutral as possible. It's not hard at the end of the day you just driving people somewhere just like every other day
     
  10. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    it's about all religious fanatics, you just seem to be against some of them, I am against all of them
     
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    Maybe it wasn't Antisemitism but someone screwed up arranging for drivers.
     
  12. FatBack

    FatBack Well-Known Member

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    I'm not the one that feels the need to go wandering off topic to talk about some that are not the subject.

    That would be you.
    Always a, " yeah but "....
     
  13. FreshAir

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    this is the topic, religious fanatics denying people rides because of their religion
     
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    Only when the employee is on the job. Then it is very much the employer's responsibility. I guess we'll see how this employer responds.
     
  15. FatBack

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    Particular topic is anti-semites.
    Yeah but...
     
  16. FreshAir

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    it's about people being denied a ride based on religious fanaticism - in this case the discrimination is against Jews

    we should all be against discrimination based on race, religion, gender or disability
     
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  17. FatBack

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    Silly me, I was under the impression we were discussing the actual topic and not religious discrimination in general.
     
  18. FreshAir

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    you're free to give your opinions on the topic as am I mine
     
  19. Pisa

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    Why do you think religious fanaticism played a role in this? There's nothing about the drivers' motivations in articles I've read.
     
  20. kazenatsu

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    Except it wasn't really about religion. Nor were they discriminated against only just because of their race-ethnicity.
    The driver would likely have refused to have driven a group of non-Jews if they knew those people were headed to a pro-Israel rally.

    (I suppose you could argue that this entire conflict boils down to religion or race in a very indirect way)
     
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    sounds like they denied them based on their religion to me
     
  22. FreshAir

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    well the title says they denied Jewish people a ride, was it not just Jewish people they denied a ride

    were all the bus drivers Muslims?

    at the event, they said “antisemitic bus drivers refused to drive participants to the rally.” - to me that says they believed they were discriminated against due to religion
     
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  23. Pro_Line_FL

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    No one (except you) mentioned "white" or "conservative".

    The ever present victim card........
     
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  24. FatBack

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    And you just felt like you had to insert yourself?

    How about if we all get back to the topic which is not Christians at all?
     
  25. spiritgide

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    But those drivers were working for that bus company, driving the company's busses- and their behavior reflects on that company, possibly exposing it to litigation. Those drivers may not be drivers anymore, at least for that company.
     

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