By Silhouette & SFJeff's request-ideology of 'gay bashings.'

Finally something new for me to add. To start with to repeat, unless you're protecting yourself, it's a crime to grab some1's butt, groin or boobs against will-assault&battery. But here is another case. It's repeatedly proposing. If a gay proposes @ a private party in their house or in a pub, then the right thing to do is say 'no thanks' & leave. But if the gay repeatedly proposes after the man has said no, then it's criminal harassment. Also it's a crime-harassment & indecency to propose in places such as public restrooms-Larry Craig case.

Some 'gay bashings' happen after a gay repeatedly proposes to a man after he has said no such as following man & proposing again or the gay proposed to a man in the public bathroom. MSNBC host Tucker Carlson in 2007 got controversy after he talked of how he once bashed a gay who was harassing him in a mall restroom & then tying him up for the cops to arrest the gay. Here's how these 'gay bashings' could be self-defense. As the gay is committing the crime of harassment, these cases are again unpredictable. If a man repeatedly proposes to a woman after she said no incl. follow her to the lot, then it's possible the man has other intent such as to kidnap & rape her. So if a gay who is harassing the man has a history of violent assault&battery or committing homosexual rape, then it's possible the gay has other violent intent. If the gay is high (gays have higher drug junkyism & drugs are gay), then it's unpredictable what the gay may do next. If a man kills a gay after the gay repeatedly proposed to him after he said no, then justifying deadly force maybe hard to do. But again, the man did so because the gay committed a crime & it's possible the gay may have had other bad intent such as homosexual rape. A jury could convict the man of lesser charge, but they could acquit the man if they think the gay had other bad intent. These would be jury topics.

Finally & not to go endlessly about Matthew Shepard, it was mentioned that during the last months of MW Shepard's life, he feared he had AIDS, but was still reckless in going into pubs for sex. If a straight man with a VD who goes on to have sex with many women after he knows he has VD (like the old word), many would say the man's a dirty pig who endangers others lives. With Matthew Wayne Shepard, let's be honest, if MW Shepard had been killed by a gay lover after his lover feared MW Shepard gave him AIDS, his killing would not be given much thought & some gays would say that MW Shepard deserved it by risking other gays lives by being promiscuous after he suspected he had AIDS. There are many more cases where gays have killed other gays in domestic quarrels such as this, but gays often give little thought to it & had Matthew Shepard instead been killed by his gay lover, we'd hear more about what a reckless dirt he was.

 

Methew Wayne Shepard is who he should be called. Methew Wayne Shepard chose Univ. of Wyoming out of all the colleges he could get into, but then he put down the college & University. Methew Wayne Shepard was described by many incl. friends as moody, obnoxious & self-centered. Methew Wayne Shepard was a drug junky who mixed Ecstasy with anti-depressants so DRUGSAREGAY. Methew Wayne Shepard mistreated others & in the end was mistreated by being killed by 2 men. If a homo is committing assault&battery, exposing himself or harassing others in the bathroom, the homosexual is committing a crime. If man reacts by bashing or killing the gay, to repeat, he did so in reaction to crime the gay did. These situations are unpredictable. If a gay grabs another man's butt or groin against will, to repeat the gay has committed assault&battery. But what if the gay is high on drugs (again DRUGSAREGAY) or if the homo has past history of committing violent crimes. A case can be made that if a man kills a gay after the gay pinched the man's butt or groin against will, the man may have defended himself from more violent deed esp. if the homo has past history of violent crimes or if the homo is high on drugs, the gay may have intent to do other deeds. So these situations are unpredictable because again, the gay is committing a crime by exposing himself, but indecent exposure, etc. may not be the only crime the homo intends to do.

 

Good to know that I can now shoot anyone that grabs my butt. No need for police. I have a concealed carry permit.

You are ridiculous.

 

Based on this OP, all your comments in this thread, AND previous comments you made a couple of months ago, including excessive insults and ridiculous remarks, I am convinced that you only have one purpose in posting, and it is hate mongering and baiting.

Grow up, or be ignored.

 

Four months ago you posted this:
"SFJeff, Matthew Shepard's killing is to me a minor topic-why he was killed only he & his killers know-a jury has decided the case."

And now you are starting up this thread again- talking about who? Matthew Shepard.

Matthew Shepard was attacked, and viciously murdered by two men that he had never met before that night, simply because they believed him to be gay.

Everything else is irrelevant.

It doesn't matter if Matthew had propositioned someone else the night before- anymore than it matter when a woman is raped.

I find your posts on this both confused and excusing murder. Your posts on this frankly disgust me.

You want to discuss Matthew Sheppard- we can have this discussion.

You want to discuss your belief that it is justified for a 250 lb biker to kill a gay because he got his butt pinched- well I don't excuse murder- and that is just a rationalization.

Just disgusting.

 

Grabbing some1's butt against their will is a crime-assault&battery, if intent isn't sexual but it can be something more serious such as sex abuse if intent is. A person has a right to use any just force to end this, though deadly force is harder to justify, but it's a jury topic. But of some1 is pinching butt or any other body part against will, assault&battery may not be the only intent. These cases are again unpredictable. What if that person who is doing it has past convictions for felony assault&battery, sex abuse or even rape. Yes, it's possible that if a man kills a homo after the gay pinched his butt against will, the man may have been self-defending against a more violent attack if the gay is high on drugs or has past record for violence, but it's a jury topic. Also gay/lesbian sexual behaviors are useless, worthless & comparable to drug junkyism. If your post is implying that gays should have a right to go around grabbing butts & groins against will or go into public restrooms harassing others for sex, then there' something wrong with you. If that's the case, then the next time you use the women's bathroom, let's see if you tolerate it if a male janitor were to videotape you as you see the toilet.

Why Methew Wayne Shepard was killed only he & his killers know. Honestly, if the Cody police in August 1998 had put him in jail for assault&battery + falsely reporting a crime when they had the proof for which jury could've convicted him, his Oct. 1998 killling by 2 men may have been avoided. The way I see Methew Wayne Shepard's murder is this way-he mistreated others & in the end he was mistreated by being killed by 2 men. Same with Harvey B. Milk, the homosexual statutory rapist you defended on another blog. If the Calif. authorities had prosecuted & convicted him of homosexual statutory rape by jury in 1964, he would've been a felon & thus not been in office in 1978 so he wouldn't have been shot & killed. If a homosexual is going to pinch a 250 lb biker's butt against will, the homosexual is committing a crime assault&battery. If the 250 lb biker reacts by punching the homo in the face, don't see why you should be offended by it. The gay should've kept his hands to himself. Ok, killing the gay would be harder to justify but what if the gay he killed is high on drugs such as Meth-people high on drugs can be unpredictable. Or what if the gay has past record for committing homosexual rape. If a 250 lb biker kills a homo after the gay pinched the biker's butt against will, the biker possibly protected him against a more violent attack the gay did if the gay was high on drugs or has past record for violent crimes. If a man who is a convicted rapist were to pinch a woman's butt or boobs against her will, chances are that the man's intent isn't just to pinch her butt or boobs but to commit rape. So yes, it's possible that butt pinching isn't the only crime the gay is intending. He has again already committed 1 crime assault&battery if his intent isn't sexual, but it's also possible that the gay has intent to commit another crime more serious especially if the gay is harassing others in restrooms. I don't want gays committing indecent exposure, assault&battery & I don't want gays harassing others in restrooms. Many gay bashings are men reacting to crimes the gays did. Jury decides if man's story is credible & if it is, then is his reaction just or excess. But yes, I would rather have a case where a man bashes or even kills a gay after the gay committed a crime such as indecent exposure, assault&battery, etc. & have a jury decide that the man reacted excessively than for the man to do nothing & the gay does something worse to him or the next man, because if the homo thinks he can get away with committing assault&battery, he may think he can get away with more violent deeds in future such as homosexual rape. Again, the gay in these cases committed a crime before the man reacted violently.

 

For what you find hate mongering & baiting, you did take the time to read & reply. Again, if you see nothing wrong with gays asking others for sex in public restrooms or masturbating in front of others, then there's something wrong with you. If you were using the women's restroom, then should male janitors have the right to tape you as you use the toilet-the bathroom is there to use the toilet & wash up, not sexual encounters. I'm against starting fights. If a homo is minding his own business & not bothering others, I don't care though gay/lesbian sexual behaviors by consenter adults is comparable to drug junkyism (DRUGSAREGAY0. But if a homosexual is going to be anti-social in the ways described, then a man has a right to use any reasonable or just force to end the abuse. So if a gay is going to expose himself to another man after which the man reacts by punching the gay in the face, the gay committed a crime -indecent exposure (indecency) & the man reacted by bashing the gay's face. Your thinking is evil if you believe a man should tolerate this abuse.

 

Once again- you are justifying the murder of a gay man. There was no question- this was an open and shut case of murder.

I find that despicable.

 

I am fine with any adult being being prosecuted for indecent exposure.

I am also against homophobic bigotted rants and making excuses for murder.

You want to start a thread about what reasonable force a man or a woman should be allowed to use when they are sexually groped, then fine. You want to just rant about how much you are scared of being pinched by a gay- well I am not interested.

 

Lets try a thought experiment here.

Try using the much more common experience of a woman being groped as the example.

 

Since you ask reasonable force, this is what I believe reasonable force is. If in the eg. you give, a gay were to pinch a 250 lb biker's butt or groin against will (assault&battery), then the 250 lb biker punching the gay in the face once or twice; breaking the gay's hand(s) by slamming it to the ground or breaking the gay's knees by kicking him in the shins would be reasonable force. Deadly force that you raise would be harder to justify but that would be jury topic & jury decides what degree to convict such as Manslaughter rather than Murder 1 or Murder 2. If the gay is high on drugs or has past convictions for violent crimes, then pinching butt may not be the gay's only intent. Yes, SFJeff, I could believe the 250 lb biker used reasonable force if he kills a gay after the homo pinches his butt or groin against will if the defense lawyer can show the gay had other intent such as again if the gay is high on drugs such as Meth or if the gay has a past history of beating up men after he pinched their butt or groin against will. Problem I find with your posts is that you imply that if a gay pinches a 250 lb biker's butt or groin against will, that the 250 lb biker just tolerate the abuse & the 2nd problem I find is that your post assumes that butt pinching is the gay's only intent when it could be more serious. If you're going to deny that a gay who is high on drugs or who has past history of violent crimes can't do another crime in addition to butt pinching, then you're dishonest.

Finally, I call him Methew Wayne Shepard because he was a Meth junky. I did not justify his murder by 2 men & if anything, his murder case is of minor interest to me. My point raising Methew Wayne Shepard is that his death to me is no different than a gangster who 1 day gets killed in an unrelated crime. Methew Wayne Shepard treated others poorly & in the end he was treated poorly be being killed by 2 men. Yes, his 2 killers are guilty of murder & are in prison, but I'm not going to mourn Methew Wayne Shepard because even his friends described him as moody, obnoxious & self-centered & MEthew Wayne Shepard was a junky who mixed Ecstasy (a Meth) with anti-depressant pills. Gay/lesbian sexual behaviors are useless & comparable to drug junkyism & it's best for them them to be celibate. & they should make it a crime to do sex changes because transexuals are worse than the gays.

 

And that is really what this all comes down to- all of your excuses about why it is okay for gays to be beaten up or murdered is just a natural extension of your fear of homosexuals.

 

If a man were to go around grabbing a woman's butt or boobs against her will, then the woman should have a right to use any just force to end the abuse. There are many cases where men have grabbed a woman's butt or boobs against her will & the woman reacted by kicking the man in the testicles or kicking him in the shins. Deadly force again is harder to justify, but what if in the case you raise the man who is grabbing the woman's butt or boobs against her will is a convicted rapist recently paroled. A case could be made that the man's intent wasn't just to grab her butt or boobs against will but to try to rape her. If a man were to go around grabbing a woman's butt or boobs against her will, then again, if his intent isn't sexual, it's assault&battery, but if his intent is sexual it's sex abuse or even rape attempt.

Gays have no right to harass other men in public restrooms for sex & gays have no right to pinch a man's butt or groin against will. It doesn't matter if the man the gay harasses is a 250 lb biker, the gay is committing a crime & the gay deserves to be treated like a criminal. To repeat, I believe the 250 lb biker punching the gay once or twice in the face, breaking the gay's hand(s) or kicking the gay in the testicles or shins is just force. Deadly force as I said would be harder to justify but what you raise is a jury topic. As I repeated from my last post, if the gay is high on drugs or has past record for committing violence, butt pinching may not be the only crime the gay intends. Each case must be judged individually. Jury decides if man should be acquitted or convicted or if he is convicted then what degree such as Manslaughter rather than Murder 2.

Actually I have dislike of transexuals more & Methew Wayne Shepard's killers had instead killed a transexual, then I'd acquit because I'm against sex changes. With gays, if a gay is minding his own business, then leave him alone, so I'm against randomly going out bashing & killing gays. But if a gay is going to do what we've been talking about such as pinch a man's butt or groin against will or if a gay is going to expose himself or ask others for sex in the bathroom, then a man has a right to use reasonable force to end the abuse. If a gay is going to harass other men in the bathroom pinch a man's butt or groin against will (assault&battery), then to repeat, I believe the 250 lb biker hitting the gay in the face once or twice or even breaking the gay's hand(s) would be reasonable force.

 

1 thing to add to SFJeff's eg. if a man proposes to a woman in let's say a pub after which the woman says no, if the man repeatedly proposes after she has said no, incl. following the woman into the lot, the man is committing @least criminal harassment & he can go to jail for it-many men in jail for it. SFJeff writes as if men have a right to do this when man gets treated like a criminal when they do. Also again, if the man is a paroled rapist, if he repeatedly proposes after a woman has said no by following her into the lot, then it's a good possibility that the man's intent is to rape her & not just harass her. There have also been cases where women have accused men of assault&battery, sex abuse, after which woman's boyfriend or friend bashed or even killed the man only to be later proven the man was innocent & the woman made it up. SFJeff overlooks that innocent men have sometimes been bashed or killed because of this.

With proposals if a homo were to propose to a man in a pub or private party, then the right thing for the man to do is say no & leave. But if the gay repeatedly proposes after the man has said no incl. by following the man into the lot, the homo is now committing criminal harassment. The homosexual was told no, but continued repeatedly incl. following the man into the lot. Man has a right to use reasonable force to end this abuse such as deck the homo or call the cops. If the homosexual while he is proposing is high on drugs or to repeat has past convictions for violent crimes, then it's possible the gay may have intent to commit a violent crime if he doesn't get his way. This again would be a jury topic. If defense lawyer wants to raise fact the gay committed criminal harassment & was high on drugs while he did this or if the gay has past history of violence, then jury must consider this in deciding if man's reaction to bashing or killing a gay who is harassing him is just or excessive because again, harassment may not be the only crime the gay intends esp. if he has past violence because these cases are unpredictable.

 

So you actually approve of murdering transexuals- because you dislike them 'more'?

No one else is participating in this....and frankly I just find your comments to be very disturbed.

There is no justification for murdering anyone- whether you approve of transsexuals or not.
There is no justification for raping a woman just because she turned a trick the night before.
And there is no justification for murdering Mathew Shepphard.

I am done with this thread....frankly your comments disturb me too much and I am concerned that I am just fueling your homophobic fantasies.

 

There is a 100% way-make it a crime to do sex changes & then you won't have violence against transexuals.

Did not justify Methew W. Shepard's murder other than to say that Methew W. Shepard was a drunkard Ecstasy Junky who once committed assault&battery on some1 & then the next day falsely accused the man of homosexual gang rape after that person decked Methew W. Shepard in self-defense. Fact that Methew W. Shepard would falsely accuse some1 of rape makes him almost as bad as a rapist. With Methew W. Shepard gone, we will never know how much worse he would've become. Just told the truth that Methew W. Shepard was a bad person who got killed by 2 bad persons. Bad people sometimes kill bad people. My view of Methew W. Shepard's murder is to repeat the same as that of a gangster who 1 day is killed by 2 muggers in an unrelated robbery-the 2 muggers are bad people who should be punished for robbery/murder but that doesn't change the fact the victim was a bad person. Harvey B. Milk was a homosexual statutory rapist who had sex with underage boys & I believe you know this even if you deny it. Homosexual activities are useless & it's best for gays to be celibate even if orientation doesn't change just as it's best for crack junky to quit drugs.

My posts disgust & offend you, but people need to offend gays with the truths. Gay bashing victims must face the same scrutiny as gay bashers. It's hard to get neutral media coverage of gay bashing cases because if media says something which makes the gay look like a criminal, gay/lesbian groups complain to advertisers. Again, not advocating random violence against gays but to repeat if a homo is going to expose himself or pinch another man's butt or groin against will, then if the man reacts by punching the gay once or twice in the face breaking the gay's jaw or breaking the gay's hand(s) by slamming it to the ground or a man kicks the gay in the shins breaking the gay's knee(s), then that is reasonable force. If a man kills a gay after the gay pinched his butt or groin against will, then to repeat yes, that would be harder to justify but as the gay did commit assault& battery a case could be made that a man who kills a gay after the gay pinched his butt or groin against will used reasonable force to protect himself from homosexual rape if the defense can prove the gay had intent to commit a more serious crime such as if the gay has past convictions of violent crimes or if the gay who is committing this assault&battery is high on drugs. Again, these cases are unpredictable. The gay has to repeat committed @least assault&battery if his intent wasn't sexual when he pinched the man's butt or groin against will. But if the gay who is doing this is high on drugs or has past record of committing violence, then there's a good possibility the gay wants to do something worse. But again, these topics would be for juries to decide, yet you imply you're hostile to having juries decide gay bashing cases.

 

Not all lesbians hate straight men but have found that some lesbians hate straight men & straight White Christian men get the most hatred. Yes there are lesbians who @least are fairer such as MSNBC hostess Rachel Maddow & radio hostess Tammy Bruce. With Rachel Maddow, while we differ, she @least allows those who differ with her on her show to be interviewed. But some lesbians hate straight men. If a straight man decks a gay after the gay harassed him in the bathroom, gay/lesbian groups main complaint is that the straight man did not tolerate the abuse the gay did. It’s my belief Pam Spaulding who is a lesbian hates straight men with straight Christian White men being hated by her the most. Pam Spaulding should be honest & just say that she hates straight men, especially if the straight man is White & Christian.
Here's why & it's not just the gay/lesbian topic.

1. In 2006, Pam Spaulding took side of CG Mangum, the woman who falsely accused several straight White men of rape in the Duke Lacrosse hoax. Crystal Gail Mangum who made the false accusation was a crack junky with a DUI conviction before Duke case & who since then was convicted of child abuse in 2011 & currently awaiting murder trial. Unsure what Pam Spaulding thinks now, but what I know is that Pam Spaulding took the side of a woman who is a crack junky child abuser because she accused straight White men of rape which was proven false.

2. Pam Spaulding in 2007 condemned former MSNBC host Tucker Carlson after Tucker Carlson talked of how he once beat up a gay who was harassing him in the bathroom when Tucker Carlson was a teenager by hitting the gay (k/o him) & then tying the gay with a friend before calling the police. The cops arrested the gay for harassment. Pam Spaulding wrote that Tucker Carlson had ‘masculinity issues’ because Tucker Carlson self-defended. Bathroom is the place to use the toilet & wash up, but Pam Spaulding saw nothing wrong with gays having sex in bathrooms in that she thinks Tucker Carlson should’ve just taken the abuse.

3. Harvey Bernard Milk is some1 who Pam Spaulding idolises. Pam Spaulding sees nothing wrong with Harvey B. Milk committing homosexual statutory rape on 16 year old boy in 1964. If a straight man were having sex with a 16 year old girl, Pam Spaulding would’ve decried him as a statutory rapist as he should be, but the problem is Pam Spaulding thinks statutory rape is OK when it’s homoseuxal.

 

It's hard to repeat to get neutral media coverage of 'gay bashings' because if media says something which makes the gay or some cases lesbian look like a criminal, gay groups complain. Here's an example of journalism where KTLA only gives the gay's side of the story of being harassed in Lowes. See http://www.ktla.com/news/landing/ktla-gay-lowes-threat,0,6289392.story

Now it's possible that both homos are telling the truth but it's also possible the 2 gays could've harassed the Lowes employee who told them to leave but now the 2 gays are making up a story of being harassed in order to get sympathy. Both gays have criminal records. The 1st gay has a 2002 conviction for indecency in an airport. See http://www.pe.com/local-news/rivers...accuser-in-lowes-gay-slur-case-has-record.ece

2nd queer making the accusation also has criminal record for drug possession so drugs are gay. Now yes, this case must be judged on it's own facts of the Lowes case. Both gays maybe telling the truth even with criminal record but the fact that both have criminal records makes it possible that both gays were harassing the Lowes employees who asked them to leave & now both queers are making up story to get sympathy, money, etc. If the Lowes employee threatened them after the 2 homos harassed them, then while he still shouldn't have threatened them, his punishment should be less because of provocation such as suspension rather than getting fired. Anyhow, with the Internet we'll put 'gay bashing' victims to the same view as 'gay bashers.' If there is something KTLA or other media is leaving out regarding a 'gay bashing' victim then we will use the Internet to inform & there's nothing gay/lesbian groups can do to stop it. Gay/lesbian groups can complain to KTLA's advertisers to prevent KTLA or other press from writing something bad about gay bashing victim but we aren't advertiser driven & we'll inform if we find it. See link below for criminal record of 2nd gay.

http://www.pe.com/local-news/rivers...nd-lowes-accuser-also-has-criminal-record.ece

 

Something to add & it's the Stephen Starr (2011 case) in NC. Before this, to summarize 'gay panic' defense, here a few eg. of anti-social conduct that gay committed which defense lawyer can & should bring up to jury in deciding 'gay bashing' cases. 1 would be if the gay committed indecency (indecent exposure) by the homo masturbating in front of others or exposing himself; if the gay harasses other men by repeatedly proposing after the man has said no, following the man into the lot; if gay commits assault&battery by what I've written. There are more but jury must consider anti-social conduct gay did before man bashed or killed the gay in deciding verdict as the man did react to a crime the homo committed. Now to the Stephen Starr case in N.C.

Stephen Starr in Feb. 2011 was a 36 year old homosexual who was shot & axed to death by an autistic 19 year old boy who Stephen Starr said was his adopted son. What Stephen Starr did was adopt this 19 year old mentally retarded boy. But rather than be a dad, Stephen Starr sexually abused this 19 year old boy incl. putting drugs in the boy's cough medicine. 19 year old boy killed Stephen Starr in his sleep by shooting him & axing him. Gay/lesbian groups are apologists for Stephen Starr, as would SFJeff is. But truth is that Stephen Starr committed sex abuse on a retarded boy. This 19 year old boy was autistic, Stephen Starr sexually abused the autistic young man & the young man killed him. Judy Shepard & many gay/lesbian activists such as on Box Turtle Bulletin see nothing wrong with Stephen Starr homolesting an autustic young man. Mentally retarded people can't legally agree to have sex. If a straight man were to have sex with a mentally retarded 19 year old woman who he calls his 'adopted daughter' that man would be committing rape. With Stephen Starr , it wouldn't be surprising if he had sexually abused other teenage boys who were mentally retarded, got away with it but this time, he got killed by his victim. Yes, Stephen Starr's victim should've called the cops & have the police arrest Stephen Starr for sex abuse. Though the case has been pleabargained, Stephen Starr by having sex with a retarded 19 year old boy committed homosexual rape. If you don't see anything wrong with Stephen Starr having sex with 19 year old autistic young man, then there's something wrong.

 

SFJeff again, you know I'm against bashing & killing people simply for the fact they're gay though I see something wrong with gay activities But something new, there are individual gays who have told me that if a homo is going to harass other men in bathrooms or if a homo is going to commit assault&battery by pinching a man's butt or groin against will, if the man reacts by breaking the gay's hand(s) by throwing it to the ground or breaks the gay's knees by kicking the gay in the shins, then the gay committed a crime & he got a violent reaction to it. My view to repeat has been that 'gay bashing' cases must be judged by juries & if a defense lawyer wants to bring up anti-social conduct the gay did before the man reacted by bashing or killing the gay, then a jury must regard this in deciding whether the man used reasonable or excessive force & if it's excessive, then what degree. Yet you condem the idea of let's have juries decide what is reasonable or excessive because reasonable force is a jury topic.

I already said that if a man is having sex with a retarded 19 year old girl, he should go to prison for rape because a retarded woman can't understand what is happening. If the retarded woman kills the man while he is sleeping & then chops him up, a jury will decide what degree the retarded woman should be convicted of such as Manslaughter rather than Murder 1 or Murder 2. I see something wrong SFJeff with 36 year old homosexual Stephen Starr having sex with a retarded 19 year old boy in 2011-that was sex abuse. Though the murder case was pleaded to 2nd Degree, IMO, that was Manslaughter & had it been a jury trial, the defense lawyer should've brought up Stephen Starr having sex with a boy he knew was retarded, including putting drugs in the boy's Mucinex after which the 19 year old boy reacted by shooting Stephen Starr in his sleep & then axing him. Stephen Starr had no right to be having sex with a 19 year old retarded boy. If Stephen Starr of NC wanted to have homosexual sex, then there were many adults who aren't mentally retarded who he could've done his deeds with. But he did it with a retard & chances are Stephen Starr has had homosexual sex with other retarded youths but got away with it until he did it with 1 who killed him in a revenge killing. It's understandable to me why the 19 year old retard killed Stephen Starr, but gay/lesbians such as on Box Turtle Bulletin in 2011 made excuses for Stephen Starr having sex with a retarded 19 year old.

 

Once again- I find all the justifications of murders of Gays as dispicable as I find those who rationalize women being raped because they dressed 'provactively'.

Murder is murder, and excusing murder because of your homophobia is despicable.

 

That's not serious rebuttal. If a homo is going to harass other men in the bathroom or if a gay is going to pinch a man's butt or groin against will (assault&battery), the the gay in both cases is committing a crime & the homo needs to be kicked in the shins breaking the gay's knee(s) or the gay needs to have his hand(s) broken in those circumstances. The man reacted to crimes the homos did. Stephen Starr of NC in 2011 had sex with a 19 year old retard & that retard killed Stephen Starr. Yet you don't think it's despicable what Stephen Starr did. It can be said the main reason you find this despicable is because the straight man didn't take the criminal abuse the homo did. 1 can put a reason behind why Stephen Starr was murdered by the 19 year old retard, yet you're an apologist for homos who have sex with underage boys-homosexual statutory rape that Harvey B. Milk did & you see nothing wrong with Stephen Starr having sex with a 19 year old retarded boy. Both Harvey B. Milk & Stephen Starr were bad people & world's a better place w/o these 2. You're repeating what Tiffany Edwards Hunt of Big Island Chronicle did. As Tiffany Edwards Hunt sees nothing wrong with gays harassing other men in the bathroom, then let's have male janitors tape Tiffany Edwards Hunt as she uses the toilet in public restroom-don't think she would tolerate it. Don't be surprised if it turns out Tiffany Edwards Hunt has used drugs in her life. Homo&lesbian sexual activities are comparable to crack smoking & other drug junkyisms. Homosexual activities are useless & worthless.

 

My rebuttal is completely serious.

Every post of yours I see rationalizations for the murder and assault of gay people.

 

Kicking a gay in the shins, punching the gay in the jaw breaking it or throwing the gay's hand(s) to the ground breaking the gay's hand(s) after the gay pinched a man's butt or groin against his will is reasonable force so the man didn't commit assault&battery but used reasonable force against an assault&battery which the homo. Again, these cases are unpredictable. If the gay is high on drugs or has past record of violent crimes, then it's possible the gay has other intent besides assault&battery. With Stephen Starr's killing, yes I do side with the 19 year old retarded boy who killed him so in his case you can say it's rationalising the murder of a homo. But again Stephen Starr of NC in 2011 had sex with a 19 year old retard & that retard killed Stephen Starr. My view would be the same if a 36 year old man had sex with a retarded 19 year old girl & the 19 year old girl kills him while he is sleeping. Mentally retarded people can't legally agree to have sex. With Stephen Starr , it wouldn't be surprising if he had sexually abused other teenage boys who were mentally retarded, got away with it but this time, he got killed by his victim. Yes, Stephen Starr's victim should've called the cops & have the police arrest Stephen Starr for sex abuse. You see nothing wrong with Stephen Starr having sex with 19 year old autistic young man, but I do.

 

It's truth that many to most 'gay bashings' are straight men reacting to crimes the gays did just as it's truth Tiffany Edwards Hunt of Big Island Chronicle passes gas & does turds like all. Unsure if Tiffany Edwards Hunt of Big Island Chronicles is a lesbian as she is married with kids. But if a straight man were to grab a woman's butt or boobs against her will after which the woman kicks the man in the shins or testicles, Tiffany Edwards Hunt would probably believe the man deserved it. But Tiffany Edwards Hunt of Big Island Chronicle thinks it's Okay for gays to have sex in public restrooms. As this is the case, then let's have a male janitor tape Tiffany Edwards Hunt of Big Island Chronicle as she uses the toilet-don't think she'd tolerate being taped as Tiffany Edwards Hunt passes gas & does smelly turds. Tiffany Edwards Hunt also sees nothing wrong with falsely accusing a man or rape/sex abuse as she is an apologist for Methew W. Shepard's false accusation 2 months before his death. As this is the case, then let's accuse Tiffany Edwards Hunt of Big Island Chronicle of child abuse-don't think she'd tolerate being accused of abusing her children.

Again if a gay kicking a gay in the shins, punching the gay in the jaw breaking it or throwing the gay's hand(s) to the ground breaking the gay's hand(s) after the gay pinched a man's butt or groin against his will is reasonable force so the man didn't commit assault&battery but used reasonable force against an assault&battery which the homo. Killing is harder to justify but that's a jury topic & again, these cases are unpredictable. If the gay is high on drugs or has past record of violent crimes, then it's possible the gay has other intent besides assault&battery. Stephen Starr of NC in 2011 had sex with a 19 year old retard & that retard killed Stephen Starr. Mentally retarded people can't agree to have sex. With Stephen Starr , it wouldn't be surprising if he had sexually abused other teenage boys who were mentally retarded, got away with it but this time, he got killed by his victim.