Can Harris win the Democratic nomination?

Assuming that President Biden decides not to run again in '24, is Kamala Harris a cinch to win her party's nomination?

The Democratic power brokers can read polls as well as anyone else, and they aren't good for Harris. Not that they ever were good, but it looks to me like Trump would easily beat her in '24. Yes, even considering all the legal problems he has. People want the border secured yesterday. I'd bet many Democrats would secretly vote for Trump over Harris.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehil...harris-in-hypothetical-2024-matchup-poll/amp/

I don't know how backroom politics work exactly, but surely the party leaders will smile and voice encouragement publicly for Harris and be privately urging Hillary, Andrew Wang, Michelle Obama, and Gavin Newsome to run against her. Any one of those four would have a better chance against Trump than Kamala Harris. They at least appear to be more self confident and competent than she is. And they don't laugh inappropriately. Well, Hillary does sometime. The question is, will they all roll over and be quiet so that Kamala can get what she wants?

 

Biden and Carter have proved that any Democrat can win the nomination and beat any Republican candidate whenever the DP/RP wants that to happen.

 

I don't see Hillary being a viable candidate against Trump. Both have equal integrity issues. The only advantage she might have is with women, but she's lost her appeal even among them. The black voters have started to see through her obvious pandering.

Michelle Obama only has her relationship with her husband as an advantage. But I can't think of a single qualification other than that.

Wang had his chance and failed. Still, put up against Trump he might have a chance. Same with Newsome. Although, even though he survived, he went through two recalls. On the National stage that might work against him in the Red States (and some Blue).

 

Most Democrats I know have nothing positive to say about Harris. I've heard her refered to several times as a 'bookmark'.

Hillary is past her expiration date, Michelle doesn't have the savvy. Wang isn't strong or progressive enough, Newsome has that slick chram that could get him nominated, but to pull the whole race?

 

Can Harris win the Democratic nomination?


Hell no

 

I think you're right, though I had to read that twice.

 

I'd like to see a poll of Democrats: Michelle Obama or Kamala?

Michelle Obama, I think, is very bright. She'd be a quick political study, is probably on Barack's page when it comes to woke purity, and would presumably avoid cackling hysterically when asked a difficult question. Also, she and George W. Bush apparently clicked, somehow. She'd get a lot of never Trump Republican votes. As would Yang.

Yes, Newsom's slick hairdo and tailored suits bother me.

 

No.

 

If Biden runs for reelection in 2024, then no. And she won't run for the nomination in 2024 if Biden runs for reelection. If Biden does not run for whatever reason, then maybe yes. The Democratic Party, like the GOP, would want to continue the policies and goals of its predecessor even with minor changes to it.

Too early for 2028 predictions.

 

If Democrats are smart, they would primary her.

 

I don't think she would be a "cinch to win", but she would be a very strong force.

Democrats have the opposite problem that Republicans do. While the GOP struggles to find a quality candidate who would have any chance of winning the nomination, Democrats have too many good quality candidates who would be very much accepted by the base. So there's no need for anybody to encourage anybody to run.

Oh... ANYBODY in the Democratic Party would be an immense favorite over Trump. I'm more concerned about moderate candidates in the GOP. A sitting VP doesn't have as much an advantage over their opponents as a President would, but they do have quite a bit. Of course, if Biden were to resign, Kamala would definitely be the candidate and she would almost certainly beat Trump, and probably anybody in the Republican field. Though I would be a little concerned if they nominated a moderate. Which I think they will.

 

To you, perhaps, but the polls show otherwise. See above.

 

But how does it play out, mechanically? She announces and then Newsom, Oprah, Hillarynand Yang announce, they do debates, and she gets clobbered? Or does she drop outt when she can't raise any money?

Seriously, I do not know how this stuff works other than in theory.

 

Well, since no one I know has a working crystal ball, theory is about all you can get. Now I'm not talking about 2024 per say, but, the next time Democrats run for the nomination of president, Harris will run, and get weeded out after a few rounds. Too many people hate her to make it all the way. She's just doesn't have the wow factor and charisma.

 

The polls at this stage are absolutely irrelevant. You can almost be SURE that they will be wrong.

 

yet the slick hairdo and fashionable suits of trump do not bother you? do you perceive a "class" difference that allows trump these metrosexual affectations and denies them to more working class politicians?

 

Would Kamala be "a cinch" to win the nomination: No.
Could she even win it: Highly unlikely (I would say "never," if I didn't avoid, generally, using absolutes).
It seems implied, but I'll also answer your question about "rolling over:" No way-- and in that scenario, you would not need the encouragement of "party leaders," to see a lot of interest, from other Dems, licking their chops, at the competition, a la Kamala.

You understand, that your question is more than a little speculative, right? In all likelihood, Biden will run, and will be the Dem nominee. But, of course, we don't know the future, and the things that seem "most likely," don't always occur.

Looking at the names you suggest, I think you have case of Hillary on the brain. Her time is past. But, much like deceased Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, I'm sure Republicans will be evoking her specter, long after she has departed this world.

Michelle Obama has made it clear, she has zero interest in such an endeavor. If someone not interested in putting their family through that gauntlet, and under that spotlight, were to change their mind, them Ohio Senator Sherrod Brown, would be a much better candidate. And, personally, I think it would be a joke, to consider Michelle Obama a serious candidate; why not Oprah, as well? But, to be fair, stranger things have happened-- just in 2016, for instance!

I had liked Andrew Yang, in the Primaries, as he is obviously intelligent, and open minded. But he could not even win the New York City Mayoral race. I don't think he warrants your considering him a top player in Dem politics. That leaves Gavin Newsome, as the name that stands out, on your list, as someone high profile, at the front of the line but-- and maybe you are thinking about (traditional) Republican Primaries-- Dems don't generally all "fall in line," behind whoever the party anoints. Hillary was somewhat exceptional, but that was strictly because she seemed a very credible opportunity, to elect our first female President. Many weighted the symbolism of that, more so than the quality of the candidate (but I was not one of them). That said, as an aside, I have had to give Clinton a bit more credit, for her speedy appraisal, of both the character of, & also of the threat posed by, at least a significant part of Trump's base.

 

Why do people assume that if one is not crazy about Newsom he must love Trump?

 

Sure.

People in the primaries will donate money and make endorsements based on polls, whether they are accurate or not.

 

Was the OP about donations or was it about who wins the nomination? The title made it look as if it were about the latter, but it appears that now you have changed your mind.

 

One can't get the nomination without substantial financial backing.

 

I don’t think Biden runs again in 2024. We are half way through his first term and look at the problems he caused and his scandals are mounting. He’ll say his work is done and retire as will Harris who is very unpopular even in her own state. The only way she could survive is if she’s handled very, very well and that’s not working out so well for Biden.

 

I actually started to suggest Oprah, but I figured someone would laugh. As they did at Trump.




(Never gets old, does it?)

I don't have Hillary on the brain. I just think she'd get all the votes she got last time, plus votes from all the new never-Trumpers in the Republican party like Liz Cheney and all the Bushes.

You don't think the thought crosses her mind? She has much right to run as Kamala Harris and is infinitely more qualified, though they both peg the unlikeability meter.

 

Where in the world would you get the idea that Kamala would be unable to obtain financial backing?

Your thread failed from the start with an absurd assumption that the Democratic Party would tip the scale based on polls that historically have almost always been wrong because they are done a year before the primaries even start. When that failed you unsuccessfully, tried to move the goalposts and make the thread about campaign financing.

 

We really don't know that answer until the end of 2023. It is way too early in the ball game of presidential runs to determine who, and how many run for the Presidential nomination of their respective parties. I still maintain that DeSantis will run, and will make his announcement by the end of November of this year, along with about a half dozen other GOP contenders, plus Trump.

For the Democrats, it appears that Biden is running, he has said so himself he has every intention of running. Whether there are other candidates, maybe. Bernie Sanders may give it a go, or someone else in the Democratic party. But it is hard to tell right now.