Can States choose to distribute electoral votes according to the popular vote?

why would I vote in an election in India? I am an American, are you outsourced from India? I am talking about one American vote is equal to any other Americans votes, and that would include Americans in PR

 

Probably, but it's really just a way to trick fools into believing they will get what they want.

 

Yep. Flip the red & blue states and the argument would follow.

 

The fallacy of sweeping generalization.

Y'all are experts at debate fallacies.

 

No, today, they play with voting districts to change who gets elected in local and state elections. Tomorrow, more than half the states in the union can stay home on election day. No sense in wasting gasoline and sending more CO2 into the atmosphere. I thought that was CO? Oh yeah, that's when they started calling it 'carbon'. lol

 

ahh... now we're slimming it down to American votes?

See how the previous nonsense was just nonsense?

So now it's 1 American vote for 1 vote?

How about kindergarteners? Those Americans who are still in kindergarten should be allowed a vote, yes?

 

"I know you are but what am I?"

 

One Ohio vote is equal to any other Ohio vote

 

i think a fair compromise between popular vote and electors would be
whoever wins the state gets +2 from the state itself(am i correct every state gets 2 eitherway ?)
and the other electors are devided according to the % outcome

so a state with 102 electors
reps got 45% dems 55%
then dems got 57(55+2) and reps get the remaining 45

 

No, but giving 10 people in Nebraska the ability to given someone the white house even though the majority of Americans didn't vote for them doesn't really work either.

 

There's no compromise necessary. In fact, I think it's time the federal government started requring proof of citizenship for each citizen in each state before counting how many electoral votes that state receives.

 

You can always secede, I guess.

 

I just want people who praise the electoral college to admit that it means that the United States is by definition NOT a democracy, since it allows the minority to control the outcome of elections, and thanks to gerrymandering parties can basically force the outcome into whatever they want.

 

i wonder why this isnt the case
in belgium i'm forced to vote (not a right but a obligation)

i get a ticket in the mail on my name with date+place where i have to vote
and i have to bring that +id to vote or i'm not allowed to vote at all (+get a fine for not voting later in that case)

dont see any illegals even trying to vote here

 

Well, I don't have any real issues with requiring ID's to vote, but the Republicans like to use it to keep certain people from voting, In Alabama, the moment they pasted their voter ID law, they also tried to shut down all of the license branches in minority areas of the state.

 

You made up every word of that paranoid rant.

And then another equally fearful and paranoid poster liked it!!!!

 

So the state is preventing their appointed electors from electing?

 

Made up? Please educate yourself. You can look at Hillary's campaign travel history. She IGNORED vast areas of middle America or any area she had no interest in. CNN and MSNBC even called her out for it, making it so obvious. Its one of the reasons she was so unlikable because you watched how she treated those beneath her. You weren't paying attention.

And if you don't know the farmer situation in Africa...AGAIN, educate yourself. Please.

I was exaggerating obviously, on the city dwellers, but its not far off. Go talk to your average young voter in a city and they don't know who the frack makes our food or where it comes from and they certainly couldn't give a rip about middle America. You understand where the concept of fly-over country came from? How many jokes do Democrats have to make about country bumpkins and they're ignorance and stupidity, which is basically racist.

Get our of your bubble you live in. I've lived in the tri-state area 1/2 my life and in FL the 2nd 1/2, so I actually have real experience and perspective. Many Liberal elites in the city truly don't give a **** about middle America. Its why many want the EC abolished, because it would make them all irrelevant and give them complete control to force them to move to cities, which then grants them more control. Remember the popular vote disparity came from 2-3 counties. Otherwise, Trump won the vast, VAST majority. Not by a lot per district, but it was a sweep. To claim Hillary was more popular on a national level is a total fabrication. She was more popular in heavily populated NYC and LA. Otherwise, nope. The map showing this is readily available. I know it hurts the eyes of TDS sufferers, but facts are facts.

The whole point of the EC is to insure tight clusters of people can't control the lives of everyone. Its to avoid the tyranny of the majority. Its how it was framed and showed a lot of wisdom. STUDY HISTORY!!!!!

ON a side note, preliminary studies are already coming out that people who only know city life their whole lives, are actually evolving differently. Quite fascinating actually.

 

one American vote should equal one American vote for a Presidential election

you logic is cities votes should be worth less then the rural vote in Ohio

maybe the minority votes shoudl be worth more then the white vote... how far do we want to take this?

 

Unfortunately we are a union of states.
Too bad, so sad

 

so you think trump was wrong, you think the candidate with less votes should win?

 

Good for Trump.
He was wrong

 

Certainly. The easy part was throwing a temper tantrum over losing the election and attempting to hand the selection of a President of the whole country to cities where people are 100% dependent on government. The tough part will be when the people figure out that Democrats took away their vote. Why would anyone go to the polls knowing that NYC, Los Angeles, and Chicago are going to vote for them?

 

All of the electors’ votes are counted equally