Can the Abbott government survive?

Actually, that is not correct. If you do not put the ballot paper into the ballot boxes; then they cannot be counted.

 

The devastating Queensland result comes as a new poll shows the government trailing Labor 57 to 43 per cent on a two-party preferred basis, compared to 55 to 45 per cent in December.

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Brandis today. “If he makes the wrong call on something as ephemeral as whether or not Prince Philip should be a knight of the Order of Australia, heavens above, that is so much a 10th order issue.”

Robert's Rules of Order, 10th order A “proxy” is a means by which a member who expects to be absent from a meeting authorizes someone else to act in his or her place at the meeting.

Brandis is correct Abbotts performance has nothing to do with the 10th order.

 

Abbott today. Government wasn't a popularity contest but 'a competence contest', he said on Sunday.

competence. NOUN. 1.the ability to do something successfully or efficiently:

LNP Government lose that contest hands down!

 

The babble and panic about getting rid of Abbott and replacing him with another one is tosh. So many letters to the editor make the point that it's the policies that are upsetting the electorate.

I think we're at the point now where we agree that certain public goods are in the areas of health, education, utilities and other things that should be available to everyone regardless of their income level. When those are attacked - as this government has done so - the electorate gets rightly upset. Privatisation is cost-shifting to the individual. Pathetic governments sell off assets for short-term gain and should be sacked if they try to do it. I don't care what party does it.

 

Politicians from the LNP & ALP selling public assets is the reason why we have a country soely dependent on private company and citizen taxes to sustain its economy. Its difficult to gets taxes and revenue from someting that you don't own.

 

The thing is, none of this is a surprise. We all knew what he was like, he wasn't an opposition leader... yes he was in opposition, yes he was the leader of the LNP, it's easy to lead a group that thinks you are IT.

We will reduce the debt! Lovely, great, we don't want the country in debt. How much interest are we paying? Our debt is increasing.

We got into debt when the GFC hit, just about every country did. The GFC was caused by business, not governments, not the run-o-the-mill citizen. No one knows what may have happened if we didn't have the stimulus package and no one knows what the LNP would have done had they been in government.

What we do know is that we survived pretty well, we landed on our feet, yes we have debt, to quote Abbott, "Faeces happens".

But one of Abbott's principle promises was to return the budget to the black, but to do so apparently he has to more then double it.

Pensions, we won't touch pensions. Great, these are the people that have brought us to where we are. These are our mum's and dads. Future pension increases were reduced, the retirement age was raised, requirements for receiving disability support pensions requirements were toughed. Those 500000 people on the dole have stricter requirements while searching for those 50000 jobs. Unemployment IS NOT created by the unemployed, it is created mostly by business. Capitalism has no parameters for humanity or morality. If we can make money selling something that we can have made cheaper elsewhere, then that is what usually happens.If I can buy a machine or process that will do the job of 10 men in half the time with less wastage, then this is what I will do.

If these things do improve our GDP, increase our profits and make our country better and richer, then we have NO RIGHT to persecute those displaced and put on the dole.

If we have better health, eat better, exercise, have better medicine and live longer. We should not be persecuted for it by working longer, especially while 100's of thousands are unemployed just to save the difference between the dole and the pension.

There will be no cuts to health. Great, health is important, not just for us to be healthy, but for the economy and the country in general. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

We won't touch education funding Garbage ... garbage after garbage A smart population is a smart country, A DUMB government is a dumb country.

Get smart Australia, get rid of Abbott, "The little Aussie undoer"

It's not what Abbott has done that is the problem, it is what he hasn't done and what he has undone. He was a negative opposition leader and now he is a negative Prime Minister.

 

Unfortunately, eveything you said in that statement can be said about the ALP also. It seems every politician wants to become a politician, but when they become a politician, they don't know what to do.

Maybe this has more to do with their lack of knowledge and experience, rather than their "Identity Marker"?

Maybe in 2015, it also demonstrates that some people have out-drown the need for politicians and the political system, that seem to be causing the continuous problems and our societies decay.

 

Actually, if the real truth was told. The GFC was not not caused by ordinary businesses or citizens. It was caused by greedy self-serving Banks, and Governments: both ALP & LNP that don't have the guts to regulate them.

We have politicians that agree banks can charge citizens 100% on home loans, but advertise they are offering 5.5%, and that there is nothing wrong with that. LOL

 

A good point,
you may ask yourself what is the greater evil, ever growing corporates, which no government wants to take on, most certainly not the Liberals, or Unions from yesteryear....
We are doomed.......
Regards

 

When we have a current situation whereby Banks and big business own the LNP, and Unions own the ALP, there is a strong urgency & mandate for the citizens to change the system before humanity returns to a second Dark Age.

Its reached a crisis point whereby we are now expected to work from the cot to the grave. Isn't that what slavery was all about, working the guts out of someone from birth until they died. Chucking them a few scraps and making them feel worthy they recieved those scraps. Even the slaves got Sunday as a rest day.

 

Abbott today went to the press club to spruik his aint I just the best mantra, and attacked everybody else. If there ever was a Galah flapping around in Parliament House its Anthony John Abbott!

 

The banks would love the ALP more, because the ALP use debt more readily. Its why Swandive got the worlds best treasurer award from the banking community - he took a perfectly strong economy and sold it to bankers as a knee jerk reaction by copying nations responses who were in entirely different circumstances... burying us in unnecessary in debt. Banks LOVE the ALP.

The only reason the business community generally prefers the LNP is because the ALP seems to favour union dominated industries including the public service... the ALP have no interest in anyone outside their sphere of cashflow... it goes to their socialist values but is more to do with cashflow through misuse of power seemingly. This means that business has to overreach to support the LNP just to try and get a fair playing ground, which the ALP play to the public as you say 'banks and big business own the LNP', which is wrong because many union linked businesses actually have a much greater grip on the ALP then any other type of business could have over the LNP.

So socialists love the ALP approach and ignore the inequity as they focus on politics of power, while liberal democrats tend to side on the right on politics and focus on politics of economies.

 

Abbott today went to the Press Club and repeated just to make it crystal clear, we have an Abbott Government not an LNP Government. All things Government are me, its about me, for me, remember me is the best for you!

 

Yes it is terrible isn't it. We should put those nasty ALP/Unionist/Commo/Socialist/Homosexual/PC/weed smoking/tree hugging greenies over our knee and give them a good spanking. How dare they do nasty things to the Conservatives, they are horrid little men (and women). Poor old Tony just wants to be king, what's wrong with that, non of it could be his fault, non of it IS his fault, don't believe me, just ask him.

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Actually I think it is the PEOPLE OF QUEENSLAND who put the LNP over their collective knees LMAO

 

Try and be ontopic. Your stereotypes are worn out union propoganda and have no relevance outside union brainwashing.

 

On topic, you telling me to keep it on topic, you took a thread on Prince Philips knighthood totally off track, actually you do it often.

Actually nearly all the time, even this, it's about Abbott surviving. Like all your posts, they all revert to one thing, how terrible the ALP are and how good the NLP are. EVERYTHING is the ALP's fault, that's it, that's all you have. Bahar

 

By the way, I have and would do so again, turned down or left a job because I had to join a union. I am not a union man. So get your facts straight.

 

Yea I know you cannot stand other opinions, but dont pretend its anything more then your own dislike. I was replying to someones post to disagree with some parts of their point - versus your reply to me which was mindless stupid sarcasm, which you follow up with a personal attack for having a valid opinion and discussion with another member. Your posting is becoming VERY fake lately DV.

 

I like other peoples opinion, it is how we grow.

This post, for the most part was not about PP, more about Angus Houston and knighthoods in general, besides your denigrating the knighthoods themselves. A knighthood is not a "a courtesy tip of the hat to the Queen", unless you are sucking up to her.

 

And your point is what, the topic is the knighthood to PP, so I was discussing the discrepancy how people view knighthoods to determine the applicability of giving it to PP. Your not making anysense unless your point is 'I didn't agree with the opinions on the thread and therefore I was offtopic'.....

... why are you going offtopic and making up stuff about me? You cannot help yourself I suppose, its your natural reaction to something you dont like - to fight it. Gawd knows you've got no argument to rest on so I guess you just have been beatin in arguments so many times you feel compelled to respond!? Again, dont feel compelled to respond, youve taken this thread far OT already.

Your posts to me and some others are getting pretty trollish DV. In the interests of stopping you derailing this further, I posted a new reply in the relevant thread about my view on knighthood since your interested.

 

I understand and appreciate what you have written, and comprehend that all politicians and political parties play in the "same" sewer. That's why I simpilified my philosophy to say: "different clowns in the same circus".

if you don't want to see clowns, then don't participate by going into the "big-top".

 

Too right. Lazy politicians sell off what they can and use the money while we end up paying more to a private company for what we used to get at a reasonable rate. If the politicians would get the big tax-avoiders and start being honest with us about taxes and if they stopped wasting public money doing such things as handing over loot to private corporations to come or stay, things might improve. And the end of PPP would be welcome.

 

$10 says Julie Bishop is sworn in as Australia's Prime Mistress by Friday

 

Who cares? Different clown, same circus. Lets focus on the policies.

Why are Australians so mentally challenged that when they see a house buring down behind them, they still prefer to bet on 2 flies climbing up a wall in front of them?