Can Ultrasounds help prevent abortions?

You tell me after watching and listening to the video........

http://nationalprolifealliance.com/uicaa_petition.aspx?pid=0107a&npla=HNAAAA12I

 

http://americanindependent.com/2104...o-not-have-direct-impact-on-abortion-decision

Some more information as well.

http://drjengunter.wordpress.com/20...d-the-medical-evidence-and-why-its-important/

 

You and your studies and statistics. Look, again, you seem to advocate for anything and everything that prevents the woman from carrying out a full term pregnancy. There has to be pregnant women out there that might have a second thought on aborting/murdering her fetus if she were to actually see said fetus/child-to-be moving around inside her. I'm far from being a liberal touchy feely type, but for heavens sake--we're talking about the life of a woman's child here and the future generation of Americans.

 

Gee, no you're only "touchy feely" when it comes to a clump of cells...nothing else....not real humans.

I think people who legislate to try to force vaginal ultrasounds on women really get off on thinking about it.

It's just another misogynistic attempt to control women by those who have no control....a sick perverted power trip.

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Oh you and your facty thingys !

 

Wow, do you ever have a sick mind. No one said anything about forcing a woman to have an ultrasound. Did you even watch the video? The whole idea is to have the woman who was contemplating murdering her child to be--to get a dose of reality and perhaps a mother-to-child connection to said child to be before she commits the ultimate capital sin. Its obvious by your response that you haven't as yet fought yourself out from that jellified clump of cells that you so flippantly reffered to.

 

Perhaps they would change the mind if the woman sees the heart beating. But, it doesn't matter whether or not the law mandates the ultrasound because there is not one OB/surgeon that would perform an abortion without first performing an ultrasound, on the first visit and on the day of the scheduled abortion. They have to determine the age of the fetus and its location within the uterus before deciding on the correct surgical procedure and to correctly perform the abortion the day of.

If the woman doesn't want to look at it, I doubt any law can force her to.

 

So - how are you going to make her look at the ultrasound if she does not want to? Are you going to be the one in the room holding her head still and forcing open her eyes to MAKE her watch??

And what makes you think she is not already aware but has still made the decision?

 

What "reality" from a pro-life site - bet the pictures are of foetuses beyond an eight week gestational period And No, I won't watch it I have better things to spend money on than watching you-tubes

 

Pay attention, no one is forcing her to watch the ultrasound. Alll they're saying is that if she was talked into watching it--it may very well prevent another murder, and make her realize that its a beating heart inside her womb that might just get the chance to breathe GOD's fresh air. I thought you leftists were for choice. What choice is the potential human life getting if the woman snuffs them out just because she's having a bad hair day or she's suffering from PMS?

 

First of all I am here to debate a woman's right to choose abortion. I have no issue if she chooses to carry to term, but that is not what this discussion is about.

Second of all there is absolutely no shortage of children or shortage of women who want to have babies. Hell, my best friend is getting married in October and is already talking about how many kids she wants to have the minute she's married. Don't worry, there are many more Americans to come in the future.

Oh yeah, jeeze I know. God forbid I post studies and facts to back up what I am talking about...man, I must just be crazy or something. rofl

 

This isn't a debate on a woman's right to abort, or of your preference to kill unwanted children, rather, its a common sense approach to using an ultrasound in an attempt to get the woman to come to her senses by preventing the killing of her unborn. Nothing more and nothing less. There are other posts elsewhere on this forum that deal with the leftist agenda to guarantee a woman the right to murder her unborn. In short, this post is an uplifting positive life enhancing one, as compared to a depressing negative agenda of abortion advocates to kill on demand.

 

Your hatred of women leaves you blind to the fact that they can think, they are not stupid, they do not need YOU to lead their lives for them, they have their own reasons and yours don't count in their life.

Why do have such a fierce, desperate need to control what women do???....

 

And what makes you think she is not already aware of this? See Pro-lifers must think women are STUPID

Most women are fully aware of what they are doing and have thought the whole thing through VERY carefully and have come to a decision

So under those circumstances why would they change their minds?

 

No, what any normal person would think is that any woman contemplating aborting her child-to-be must be either confused, suffering from PMS, coming down off a bad acid trip, or so indoctrinated into the liberal mindset of pro death--that she would benefit greatly by getting a little uplifting life-enhancing encouragement from people who love life (such as we Conservatives and pro lifers).

 

Why do YOU think you know what all normal people think? Answer (since you seem very afraid of answering any questions): You don't.

Why do you presume to?

Why do you consistently insult all women?


Does it make you feel better? Bigger?

Have you never met any women?

Are all the women you do know stupid??

Just trying to understand your hatred for half the population of the world..

 

Yep! In other lords she cannot have sat down and considered all the options - looked closely at the options available to her and, believe it or not often really really would have rather the chance to continue the pregnancy but circumstances dictate otherwise

Do you realise that nearly 50% of women aborting are in a stable relationship and often it is a SHARED decision?

What do you know of the woman who has three children to a man who walks out on her taking her life savings and the car leaving her the choice of abortion and being able to continue to work and support her children or continuing the pregnancy and being unable to work for a time - when one is on a limited budget that is a real concern. Often women are not thinking of themselves but of the other children they have to support

 

Look I gave you the facts, if you want to ignore them then go ahead. It has already been proven and studied that most women who are made to view an ultrasound (and ultrasounds are routinely done before abortion ANYWAYS) she still will not change her mind.

 

You and the others here still can't seem to grasp the idea that no one is 'forcing' these women to watch the ultrasounds. Do you think the people that made the video would go through the trouble of presenting this option to pregnant women in hopes that they will do the right thing--if as you say that most of those women wouldn't change their mind? Get real, many if not most of these women have been brainwashed by the feminist contingent out there by accepting the idea that their lives would be so much better by getting rid of that unwanted ball and chain that many of you call a ball of useless jelly. Does morality or love of life ever enter your brain when you post your nonsense in advocating the destruction of life?

 

Just like black people were once "farm equipment, not real humans."

People like you do not even try to understand the pro-life position. It's not even that you believe it is misogynistic so much as you need to believe it is misogynistic because it protects you from having to face the possible reality that you might be selfish and uncompassionate. And that burden is too heavy to live with.

 

Oh, Great Karnak! Your mind reading ability, however flawed, will bring you much fame.





Can't defend your position so you start telling others what they think......typical cop out...

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I believe it has already been shown that a woman will not change her mind even if she has an ultrasound.

 

No, it is misogynistic because it assumes women a) cannot think for themselves b) will not think for themselves c) if they are thinking for themselves they are doing it wrong

Shall I go on?

 

Again assuming she has not already thought this through

Just because you personally do not agree with the decision............

So, here is one person's story - this was a WANTED pregnancy - but the foetus was so severely deformed that it would never survive

 

Does actually addressing my posts instead of rambling on an emotionally driven rant and making personal attacks ever enter your brain when you post absolutely pointless drivel?

 

really? You know for a fact that no woman would change her mind? I've been pregnant 3 times. The moment of bonding begins when you can see or feel or touch the child. See as in a sonogram. Feel as in a good stiff kick. Touch as in holding in arms. The sad thing would be for a mother to see a sonogram after her baby was killed.