Canadian man charged with murder after shooting armed home invader with legally owned gun

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It's completely obvious the man is only "guilty" of defending himself

 

Please explain your comment. Firstly self defense laws in the US are implemented at the State level. I am very aware of the self defence laws in my State which is West VA. I have attended training as to what these laws are as taught by a lawyer, and I an a member of a State level gun rights lobbying organization that is actively involved in gun law lobbying. Who do you think you are exactly to assert from "down under" that I have not reviewed the self defense laws in West VA? This is the sort of smugness and arrogance that you people seem to always have presuming to know more about the US than people who actually live in the US. I certainly would not presume to opine on Australian laws. But yet you feel you can opine on my legal knowledge of gun rights in my country. lol

 

Details will come out. If the other guy was actually trying to kill him, he can successfully plead self defense.

Using Reasonable Force to Defend Myself or My Property
Canadians have a right to defend their property or themselves as long as their defensive actions are reasonable under the circumstances. This means that if you injure an intruder entering your home or property, you would need to show that the circumstances gave you no other reasonable choice. Essentially, you can use whatever force is needed to prevent someone from unlawfully entering your house or from hurting you, but not more. The use of lethal force would generally only be appropriate in a situation where you had cause to perceive a threat to your life or of severe bodily harm, and had no other reasonable options for defending yourself.
https://www.kruselaw.ca/library/usi...ave a right to,you no other reasonable choice.

 

In the case of the OP, it's 5 home invaders breaking in at 5AM, at least one of whom has a gun. What else do you need to validate the perception? Do the intruders need to fill out a questionnaire?

We can, depending on the circumstance. Had the OP's home invasion happened in the states, he'd be getting pat on the back. As it should be.

 

If that 10 year old and 4 of his friends broke into my occupied house, I would have asked him if he had a gun after the police show up to remove their bodies. I love Texas law.

My hope is that nobody ever wants to break into my house and I never have to shoot anybody. It's totally their choice.

 

This is a case of laws only restraining the law abiding.

If we make a stupid little rule about not carrying a gun in a certain place all you do with that is make sure the only people that have guns of criminals but that everyone there that's not a criminal is a potential victim.

This has been an argument against gun control since 1791 and you people haven't defeated it yet.

 

Yes, except you can't shoot anyone in the back.

Its your right, but its also your choice. You don't have to shoot 10 yr olds who might just be seeking adventure by breaking into your garage. However, it sounds like you'd prefer to shoot them just because you can.

Not sure about "you people". I support 2A, and right to self defense, but this thread is about Canada.

 

Laws that take away your ability to defend yourself take away your right to life.

I would say any force is reasonable when someone breaks in your home. But then again I believe in the right to one's own property which goes into the right to life.

If you think there's any excuse or what that lets the government tell you to have no right to life, they're absolutely can never be any common ground between us you are the enemy of liberty.

 

The hell you can't. If someone's attacking my wife and I come in behind them and shoot them in the back that's 100% justified.

You need to quit trying to live by cowboy rules.

 

So you would shoot a ten year old child?

Dear Gods!

You have never heard of Faginism? What if that child was innocent and merely caught up in something? Is your TV set worth more than the life of a child?

 

And if not, option B lets you just kill yourself.

 

Of course you can shoot someone in the back.

It's so obvious that leftists learn everything they know from movies.

 

And you STILL have to abide by the law of the land. Someone earlier i this thread said that the first thing people should be required to Lear when purchasing a gun is when it is legal to use it

 

Its not cowboy rules, its the law, and every gun owner needs to know them or they'll end up in prison. The above scenario would be justified, if the attacker was in process of assaulting your wife, but I think you know what I meant by shooting people in the back. You can't shoot someone who broke in, and it now in process of leaving with his back turned to you. If you really want to shoot him anyway, you need to yell "yo, you forgot the Rolex" to get him to turn around again, but then you need to destroy the security tapes etc. Yea, its not justified.

 

Do whatever makes you happy. The society is better off when the the willfully ignorant are locked up.

So, yea, it can land you in prison. You need luck and a good lawyer to get you off the hook.

THE LIMITATIONS AND EXCEPTIONS OF FLORIDA’S STAND-YOUR-GROUND LAW
https://www.fighterlaw.com/is-it-legal-to-shoot-an-intruder-who-enters-my-home-in-florida/
However, shooting an intruder in the back as they are exiting the premises may mean you are not protected under Florida’s stand-your-ground laws.

 

In Canada it seems that's recommended treatment for disabled veterans.

What did despicable place Canada is becoming.

 

If they're shooting at you with their back turned, they're free game.

If they're shooting at someone else and you shoot them from behind, free game.

The key issue there isn't that their back is turned, it's that they're no longer in the house.

Take another swing at it.

 

Canada is where the liberal United States want to be. Nose rings for all the citizens to be led around by the politicians. Socialism on the edge of communism. Liberals dream world.

 

Why do you believe that legal American gun owners don't when it's legal to use a gun? If someone forces their way into my home, it is perfectly legal for me to open fire.

This happened not too long ago in Kentucky. The police publicly shared the footage in the hopes of identifying & arresting the intruders. In Canada, the homeowner would be charged with a crime. "You can't use a gun for self-protection in Canada. That's not a right that you have in the Constitution or anywhere else." ~ Justin Fidel Trudeau Castro

 

Apologies - I have, in reviewing the American laws, failed to review VA, where it appears somewhat more lenient? Aggressive? Than others states

But still - you would shoot a child? There are times when you lot floor me

Here we would more likely grab them by the scruff of the neck and keep kicking them in the arse until our legs got too sore to continue

 

And far far fewer dead from guns

 

Come to Chicago and grab one of the 14 year olds on the street corner by the "scruff" and see what happens.

 

Same as in the UK and Australia and NZ and……….

In fact most industrialised countries. It makes me wonder how many of those “break-ins” are in fact staged murders

What a perfect way to get away with a crime

 

I remember one time she suggested throwing "crockery" at them.

I still laugh about it sometimes.