CDC director says over 75% of covid deaths were people with “at least four comorbidities”

Ah, you must be one of those that believe rona was unleashed on the world to benefit the left and make rightists & trump look bad.

Sad.

 

Help kill? Do you mean like when people walk around without a mask or even when they have the virus and break quarantine? That would mean people likeBiden, Pelosi, Cuomo, his brother, Newsom, Lightfoot, Psaki, Harris, de Blasio, Sharpton, Waters, Murphy, and scores of others could be guilty of killing people when they didn’t wear masks after we were told how deadly it would be not to wear them.

You can’t win this argument, no one is forcing anyone not to get jabbed, if you want the jab, get it. If it works then what’s the problem? If you don’t get the jab, that’s your choice just as it’s your choice to eat Big Macs everyday or inject heroin into your veins - I don’t see anyone bitching about McDonalds killing people and I do see people calling for heroin to be legalized.

 

Oh believe me, I will continue to trust doctors & scientists over antivaxxists.

Quick question, if god forbid you get terribly ill and have to go into the ICU, will you tell them to not give you anything because your natural immunities and faith will be good enough?

 

You do know many anti vaxxers are doctors and scientists, right?

to your question, how many illnesses have the questions and concerns like the China virus jab does? And it’s not a vaccine, so the term anti vaxxer is wrong.

 

Do you understand how comorbidities are counted? I am looking at the list and I am not sure if these conditions had to exist before covid to count or simply be present at the time of death. You often hear about people experiencing respiratory conditions after catching covid but is that counted as a comorbidity or not? Same thing applies to to heart failure, respiratory arrest, cardiac arrest etc... Did these condition have to happen before the catching of covid or do they count them if you died of cardiac arrest after catching covid? Also I am very worried about the "All other conditions and causes" catch all at the end of the chart. That accounts for over 800,000 comorbidities which is by far the highest number. I am not sure what falls under that catch all but I worry it is all of the unlisted comorbidities such as asthma, allergies, glaucoma, stress, depression etc... Depending on which site you go to some seem to count more things than others as a comorbidity.

Also the fact that the CDC says about 51% of Americans have between 1 - 10 comorbidities makes me wonder even more if they are counting conditions arising after catching covid and dying from the effects. If the average person acquires 2-3 conditions after catching covid and dies then pretty much everyone in the 51% group will have 4 or more comorbidities.

See table 3:

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm#Comorbidities

 

Even if they had 10 'co-morbidities'; they're still dead when they wouldn't have been before.

The blame here goes to China. That's where it belongs.

 

I would also highly suggest vitamin C, D3, Zink with a dash of elderberry.

However, you're right. The CDC should be advocating for people to start getting healthy!

And for those advocating for unvaxxed to not receive benefits or treatment for poor judgement, then I suspect you agree then with those people who made the same poor decisions and have preexisting conditions to be treated the same then, right?

 

Leftists who advocate for that are genuinely to stupid to realize the lack of logical consistency in that position.

Ive seen so many a jaw drop once they realize the position they hold there if logically consistent would mean fat people would be refused medical care, etc.

 

If those co-morbidities are due to their own poor life choices then it could also be argued they're still dead and they wouldn't have been had they chose better life style choices.

Overall, the point being is this pandemic has triggered a massive over-reaction from society.

 

Clearly there are co-morbidities that are worse than others.

Depending on how you measure it, I'm sure everyone has co-morbidities.

That doesn't mean there are those that are significantly worse than others. Those, that make you a prime target for disease. Those that could overwhelmingly be eliminated with a good healthy lifestyle.

 

Silly strawman. Make a relevant point if you want a response

 

I don’t understand your point as it relates to Covid. Should we not care they’re dead? Should we not have tried to keep them alive?

 

So do you actually think the science was wring here ? Or did they follow the science as it changed

 

So when Covid hit, it was bad, people who didn't need to die, died. But in typical conservative fashion, "it wasn't me so it isn't bad". There are over 800 thousand americas who died because of this virus. Put that into perspective thats more than all the deaths in WW1 WW2 and Vietnam COMBINED! In WWI and WWII, we sacrificed a LOT for the war effort. But when its a virus, we cant even wear a mask because...well...you know...FRWEEEEEEDUMMMMBBBBB

Hell, next time we have an armed conflict, lets not ask the generals, just ask the politicians. Hell they all care about something other than themselves right ?

 

My point is that while every life lost is a tragedy, that the manner in which our government, the CDC, and our resident leftists are going about this pandemic is overwhelmingly wrong.

Instead of preaching healthy lifestyles they preach body positivity.

They preach wearing ineffective masks instead of exercise and eating better.

They preach locking down instead of going to the gym or being social in general.

Everything the left wants you to do makes you lazier, fatter, less healthy and more isolated. When in reality you should be MORE outgoing, you should work out more, eat better, meditate, yoga, have human interaction (as we know the biospychosocial modal encourages this).

And its also to point of the utter hypocrisy of the left in there "no vaxx no healthcare" push. The left, as usual, hyperfixates on a single issue....vaxxing, instead of the multivariable issue this really is.

 

So you want govt to tell people how to live, and once that pandemic hit it was too late for that anyway.
Remember Michelle was trying to get healthier lunch in school? To prevent exactly what you’re complaining about???

 

~ There are more people coming forward with odd side effects. Skin cancers seem to be one - chest pain/discomfort another. It appears the second shot is the problem. Could we be overdosed ... ?

 

False, once the pandemic hit was precisely the time for that to take place.

And no, no rational person can get out of my statement that I want the govt to tell people how to live. You purposefully misinterpreted that.

I want the govt to encourage people to be healthy, not mandate it or mandate vaxxes or ineffective masks.

 

I don’t need the govts telling me how to eat. If you do, sign up for a newsletter or something.
I promise you that’s what 95% of your party thinks.
Again once people were dying thousands a day, was probably too late for people with multiple comorbities

 

You can promise whatever you want, you are objectively wrong.

And you say you dont need the govt to tell you how to do something, but you want the govt to mandate ineffective masks and a vaxx that most people dont need. So you are as logically inconsistent as it gets.

The hundreds of thousands could have been dropped to tens of thousands if the govt started encouraging the proper moves such as I demonstrated. Instead they choose masks lmao.

over 2 years later the govt still focusing on the wrong things. 2 years later we could have seen a far healthier society and not have the deaths happening we are having still despite this vaxx.

And dems want a larger govt lol, despite its ineffectiveness at everything.

 

False, you saw what you wanted to see from my post (in typical leftist fashion) and not the reality of what I said.

Wearing a mask doesn't work. I will never comply with such ineffective measures. No matter how overly emotional you get, the facts dont change. You are part of the group focusing on masking instead of exercising and eating healthier. Your contributions to stopping this pandemic are ineffective, useless, and costs lives.

Your obedience to a govt that doesn't function is costing lives.

Encourage healthier lifestyles and you will save far more lives than the vaxx ever has.

 

So it’s ok to encourage healthy food but not ok to encourage a mask or vaccine?
Don’t put this on dems, it was a Republican president who told us to mask up and who still says take the vaccine!

 

Its ok to encourage, not mandate. Which you support.

This was absolutely on dems.

 

That certainly helps but there are other factors. I don't work out and I don't eat right. i got Covid before the vaccine as did my wife/kid. All made it through. My friend who does eat right and works out and is in top physical health nearly died 3 times and was in the hospital for a month.

If you don't want to get the shots, don't. It's your life and you know the risks. I'm good with letting you make the choice. Just don't gripe later. And I agree that masks don't work.

 

Your friend died 3 times? This dude is friends with Jesus.