CDC Reveals Hospitals Counted Heart Attacks As COVID-19 Deaths

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  1. crank

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    No. You shut down a nation for a short period, then return to normal. Plenty of us over here in the East have done just that. Cafes are crowded, sports are being enjoyed, businesses are thriving, and hardly anyone wears a mask. I think we've had something like 2 COVID deaths in a week, in the entire country. That's pretty close to normal life, wouldn't you say?
     
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    which country are you talking about?
     
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    From your link:

     
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    if you were already in **** shape due to heart disease, or diabetes, or lung cancer, and you got Covid, the covid and related symptoms would likely kill you.

    its just like with HIV.

    nobody actually dies of HIV, but from the complications caused by HIV.

    but they are still listed as HIV deaths
     
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    And?

    We're not sure to what extent covid contributed to those causes. It's being studied. 225,000 people haven't died from suicide and overdoses.
     
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    There are several types of heart disease. Be specific
     
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    We will have to wait and see how many died of heart attacks due to covid, and how many while having covid. Because thats not the same thing. A “but for” wi have to be applied.
     
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    Each country uses different methodology to count these deaths. That’s why it’s very difficult to compare.
    But I can tell you this - if a coroner listed a heart attack or a cancer as additional cause of death then I can guarantee you that this person would have died any day from these conditions. I’ve watched a few people die from cancer - when they start deteriorating there is nothing you can do to stop it. If you have cancer and were run over by a train your cause of death will be massive trauma, not cancer.
    Seeing diabetes, cancer, heart attack, intentional and unintentional injuries, and even flu (an unrelated virus) definitely does raise eyebrows and makes one wonder how they track these deaths.
     
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    Starts with an A.
     
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    And when you have severe COPD and contract a cold your death is listed as COPD/respiratory failure
     
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    33k listed cancers as additional causes of death.
    Cancer takes years to develop.
    In final months you turn bad rapidly.
    So, a death with such combo is a death of cancer, not WuFlu.
     
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    Australia?
    I don’t think you can go much further East from there. :)
     
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    What? Years to develop. Final months. What are you talking about?

    If covid kills you, covid is the cause of death. Whatever preexisting conditions you have are irrelevant.

    And how is cancer relevant to suicide and overdose?
     
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    All you need to know is this:

    94% of all Covid deaths had an average of 2.6 of the comorbidities that are the top 10 killers in the US every single day.

    They have almost 7000 deaths with one of the comorbidities being "self-harm/accident" FFS.

    But no, it wasn't alzheimers that killed them. Wasn't heart attack. Wasn't diabetes.

    It's teh Covidz.
     
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    The conversation is about WuFlu deaths that had more than 1 cause of death listed on the death certificate.
     
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    :above::above::above:
     
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    And your point is?
     
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    A very good friend of mine DIED from a heart attack after fighting Covid for 6 weeks

    His heart finally gave out.

    COVID KILLED HIM
     
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    Dying with a positive SarsCov2 test does not mean it killed you.
     
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    I was sick as a dog over the weekend, and my doctor wouldn’t even see me until I had a COVID test. The results finally came back negative today. Now I can finally see my doctor tomorrow. I blame China, of course.
     
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    No, it sounds like the heart attack killed him, Lesh.
     
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    Then you ain't listening.

    If he never had Covid he would not have died
     
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    ~ We know hospitals get more money on a Wuhan virus death. Could that be a consideration ..? :confuse:´
     
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    The number of staff required to look after a Covid patient is much higher than looking after any other patients in ICU. Just to turn over a patient on a ventilator in bed requires 9 members of staff
     
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    And that simple but labor intensive act is saving thousands of lives
     
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