Challenge to mathematicians and scientists

I have come across a problem that the Bible does not give answer to yet the subject matter is mentioned in the Bible. The subject matter being a "shadow". Such as is found here:
http://www.blueletterbible.org/search/translationResults.cfm?Criteria=shadow+of+the+lord&t=KJV

In some of the verses it does relate to a shadow having the ability to change position, but nowhere does it give me an answer to the question of "how much does a shadow weigh?" It is obvious that a shadow is a physical phenomena related to objects and light, and because it does occupy space and has a definite shape (under ideal conditions), therefore it has to be physical matter.

Can someone please assist me with determining how much a shadow that is created in full sunlight weigh if it occupies a space of 1 square inch and is created by an object that is located 1 foot above the area occupied by the shadow?

 

42

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bokwSFugQLE

 

42? What is that supposed to be? Also, what is the link you provided about?

 

Bad science foundation here.

A shadow is the absence of light.
Light has no mass anyway, so needs no space to occupy.

Clearly, no light at all, a shadow, would occupy no space.

The shape you think you see is really the outline of the boundary of the object blocking the light.

 

Life, the Universe and the weight of a shadow

A cat + a dog calculating 42

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-XYBJOKNMg

 

Then you are suggesting that photons do not have any mass, therefore have no weight, no dimension, they don't exist?

 

If something moves with lightspeed it must be without mass. Photons = light. Light moves with lightspeed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZqiHMEZgUw

 

No....you are the on suggesting this. Cupid is simply stating the realities exposed by the science you wanted an answer to, then as usual, you have projected your own ignorance onto Cupid in an attempt to refute, or prolong the attention you so desire.

As far as we can tell thus far, a photon does not have physical mass and is therefore unaffected by gravity...but it obviously exists. Pretending you have even a minimal understanding of physics and are capable of understanding, let alone postulating theory is quite clearly not a worthy pursuit for one of your advanced theological imagination.

But, to answer your question in terms you are likely to grasp:

Nope...Shadow ain't gots no stuff in it.

 

All of the above though maybe interesting to you, gives no explanation of determining the weight of a shadow.

 

It is not completely true that photons have no mass, but that question is irrelevant relative to the OP. A shadow is not an concrete object, rather it is a conceptualization of a lack of light as seen by humans. In truth the original state of everything is to be in shadow, it is only when an electromagnetic wave hits a object and then travels into our eye that we know that object to be there. We are so used to everything being lit (even if only a little bit) that we need a term to conceptualize the non-existence of light in our minds.

 

That's the theory, they are energy with no mass, see Einstein....

 

Weigh is defined to be have weight, having weight is defined to be be acted upon by the force of gravity and light, nor absence thereof is affected by gravity. The above reasoning is subject to change if you decide to use non-obvious definitions as you sometimes do.

I could tell you how much force the light asserts on the ground, and consequentially how much force will go away when the shadow appears, but I'm not sure that's really what you're trying to get to.

Personally, I wouldn't say that a shadow is physical. In the strictest sense, the shadow is merely a concept that we as humans use to interpret the fact that less light falls upon some area and that we consequentially see that area as darker.

 

It is an interesting fact that we have no clue what energy actually is, and it still defies definition beyond explaining that is comes in seven different forms, which can be active (kinetic energy) or stored (potential energy).
But we can only describe it as "something" that has the ability to do work, and is an entity that can make things move.

It has no mass, therefore needs no Space/time to occupy in order for it to be present.
But we KNOW it exists, nevertheless, be we see what it does.
it makes things move, and we can measure how much work it does.

 

Variable statistical analysis and continuum values of inverted quadratic binary numbers show the proven solution to be found using calculations derived from latitude and longitude locations as measured by any precision-made celestial chart and sextant readings at sea level when the dew point does not exceed 30 degrees (Fahrenheit).

Therefore, the answer to your question is0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000005 grams.

Although the weight of shadows is seemingly meaningless, the earth, during the afternoons and mornings (when the longest shadows are cast), weighs 95.65405 pounds more. However, due to the equal rotation of the earth, it all averages out to be the same everywhere.

 

Ignorance? Well, please allow me to show the readers the immensity of your ignorance regarding the subject of photons.
http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/ParticleAndNuclear/photon_mass.html

The above article points out that the 'tradition' that photons are "mass less".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photon#cite_note-13
The above notation shows that it is a 'belief' that photons mass is zero.

So far, it can be a pretty good bet that the scientists are leaning on a 'belief' and upon that 'belief' they have formed a 'tradition'. Yet at the same time, the information provided on those two pages show very clearly that all the scientists have is theory with regard to the mass of a photon.

"It is almost certainly impossible to do any experiment that would establish the photon rest mass to be exactly zero. The best we can hope to do is place limits on it. " Numerology at its finest.

 

Wow! Now that really is interesting. Is it possible that you might be able to walk some of us less fortunate in education through the calculations involved that resulted in that very long number?

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Please explain how energy can have no mass.

 

I see what you did there!

 

Good observation Swensson... that is precisely what I am wanting to find out. As you pointed out, some force must be used in the making of a shadow, therefore, when the shadow is removed the affected area would be absent the previous force applied by the shadow. What is the differential in force being applied?

At the same time as you not considering a shadow as physical, is it subjective only and not readily visible in the empirical world? If it appears in the physical world, then it must comply with the laws of nature.... Everything else in nature has size, shape, weight, occupies space... why not a shadow?

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Sorry, can't see Einstein... he passed away several years ago.

 

It is rare to see someone play into the hand you dealt them in such a beautiful way. Basically, you just confirmed not only my statement in regard to Mass........you confirmed my opinion of yourself.

Thanks.

 

Is light also just a conceptual thing that humans see? Are the varying degrees of intensity of light just as well conceptual things?

Are you then suggesting that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear?

 

Please do explain the part about confirming what you said about "mass". As for the other... that is just opinion so it is irrelevant anyway.

 

I think there might be a misunderstanding. A shadow is made when light is blocked by something. I don't think it matters whether light has no mass or not, a shadow is not a thing. The only effects that occur in a place where light is being blocked from it are those effects that occur with a withdrawal of light.

Shadows are like "cold". You might also think cold is a thing, in itself, but it simply describes the lack of heat. Like "cold", shadow is merely the term we use to describe the absence of an actual thing. Zero does not exist. Yet it serves as the symbolic representation of absence. It is a known thing, but it does not exist. It is a creation of our imaginations to help us describe the world around us.

Somehow, I get the feeling you were less interested in an answer and more interested in trying to angle a philosophy proving the existence of God just as valid as that of a shadow. If I'm wrong, apologies.

 

Because a shadow is not a physical thing, it's a phenomenon.
It's the difference between what's happening to two areas of surface.

A shadow can travel faster than the speed of light, so it can't be physical.

 

What is the weight of the cotton that is in the hole in my sock?

 

Actually that part about gravity is incorrect ,or you can explain why light cannot escape a black hole The area of the shadow would weigh less than the lit area but the amount would be so small it would be hard to define.