Charlie Kirk: Thank White Liberals, Woke Values for Gain in Hispanic Republican Voters

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  1. FatBack

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    That does not prove that many Democrats have a very anti-israel position.

    Do you want to argue that the squad likes them?
     
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    Probably about as much as

    199 House Republicans have embraced anti-Semitism and violence

    For more than five years, I begged Republicans to reject the creeping anti-Semitism Donald Trump brought to the party, noting on the eve of the 2016 election that “when a demagogue begins to identify scapegoats, the Jews are never far behind.”

    But I never expected I would see in my lifetime, in the United States of America, what occurred on the floor of the House this week. One hundred ninety-nine Republican members of Congress rallied to the defense of a vile, unapologetic anti-Semite in their ranks who calls for assassination of her opponents.


    Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (Ga.), who is quickly becoming the de facto face of the Republican Party, has suggested that the deadly neo-Nazi rally in Charlottesville, where white supremacists chanted “Jews will not replace us,” was actually an “inside job” to “further the agenda of the elites.”

    She shared a video in which a Holocaust denier claimed that an “unholy alliance of leftists, capitalists and Zionist supremacists have schemed to promote immigration and miscegenation” with the purpose of “breeding us out of existence in our own homelands.”

    She posed for campaign photos with a white-supremacist leader and then refused to renounce the man.

    She approved of a claim that the Israeli intelligence service assassinated John F. Kennedy, and she speculated that wealthy Jewish interests — the Rothschilds, a target of anti-Semites since the 19th century — set forest fires in California using lasers from space.

    “Marjorie Taylor Greene will be remembered for breaking new ground for her wild anti-Semitism,” Jonathan Greenblatt, head of the Anti-Defamation League, told me after the vote

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...blicans-have-embraced-anti-semitism-violence/
     
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    Federal judge blocks part of Florida's Stop WOKE Act
    WJCT News | By Jim Saunders - News Service of Florida,
    Ryan Dailey - News Service of Florida
    Published August 18, 2022 at 4:40 PM ED
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    Gov. Ron DeSantis announces plans to restrict the teaching of race-related concepts in schools and workplaces.
    Calling part of the law a “naked viewpoint-based regulation on speech,” a federal judge Thursday blocked restrictions that Gov. Ron DeSantis and Republican lawmakers placed on addressing race-related issues in workplace training.

    Chief U.S. District Judge Mark Walker, in a 44-page ruling, issued a preliminary injunction against part of the controversial new law, which DeSantis dubbed the “Stop WOKE Act.” Walker agreed with three businesses and a consultant that restrictions in the law violate the First Amendment.

    “If Florida truly believes we live in a post-racial society, then let it make its case,” Walker wrote. “But it cannot win the argument by muzzling its opponents. Because, without justification, the (law) attacks ideas, not conduct, Plaintiffs are substantially likely to succeed on the merits of this lawsuit.”

    The ruling came on the same day that a group of university professors and a university student filed a federal lawsuit challenging another part of the law restricting how race-related concepts are addressed in education. Another education-related challenge also is pending in federal court.

    The law (HB 7), which DeSantis signed April 22, spurred fierce debates before passing during this year’s legislative session. DeSantis called it the “Stop Wrongs To Our Kids and Employees Act,” or Stop WOKE Act.

    The employment-related part of the law lists eight race-related concepts and says that a required training program or other activity that “espouses, promotes, advances, inculcates, or compels such individual (an employee) to believe any of the following concepts constitutes discrimination based on race, color, sex, or national origin.”

    As an example of the concepts, the law targets compelling employees to believe that an “individual, by virtue of his or her race, color, sex, or national origin, bears personal responsibility for and must feel guilt, anguish, or other forms of psychological distress because of actions, in which the individual played no part, committed in the past by other members of the same race, color, sex, or national origin.”

    Attorneys for the businesses filed their lawsuit June 22 and subsequently requested a preliminary injunction, saying the law violates the ability to discuss issues such as racism and implicit bias with employees.

    The plaintiffs in the case are Primo Tampa LLC, a Ben & Jerry’s ice-cream franchisee; Honeyfund.com Inc., a Clearwater-based technology company that provides wedding registries; and Chevara Orrin and her company, Collective Concepts LLC. Orrin and her company provide consulting and training to employers about issues such as diversity, equity and inclusion.

    After Walker granted the preliminary injunction, officials from the businesses issued statements about the need for diversity training and addressing issues such as systemic racism.

    “Diversity in the workplace is demonstrably good for business, so we need to be able to educate employees about the threats to diversity,” Honeyfund.com CEO Sara Margulis said in a statement. “Diversity trainings often address concepts like systemic racism, unconscious bias and privilege. I am thankful that the court’s order will enable Honeyfund to bring diversity training on these topics to all of our employees.”

    In court filings, attorneys for the state disputed that the law violates First Amendment rights, saying it only bars businesses from requiring employees to take part in training programs that use the targeted concepts.

    “They (the law’s restrictions) leave employers free to engage in, promote and pay for any speech they wish, including the invidiously biased speech targeted by the act, and they leave willing employees free to hear and to join in it,” the state’s lawyers wrote last month. “All they prevent is the use of the employer’s coercive economic leverage over its employees to make them an offer they can’t refuse: Listen to the company’s speech or clear out your desk.”

    But Walker, who also turned down a state motion to dismiss the case Thursday, rejected the arguments by the state’s lawyers.

    The law "targets speech — endorsing any of eight concepts — and only incidentally burdens conduct,” Walker wrote. “Even the slightest endorsement of any of the eight concepts at any required employment activity violates the statute; the (law) requires no evidence that the statement be even subjectively offensive. Nor does the (law) require that the statement create a severely or pervasively hostile work environment.”

    In the separate lawsuit filed Thursday, the university professors and the student argued the law constitutes “racially motivated” censorship. The 92-page lawsuit, also filed in the Northern District of Florida, focuses on the measure’s effect on universities.

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    Looks like Democrat should worry about mowing their own lawn.

    https://www.nationalreview.com/2021/05/time-for-democrats-to-address-their-anti-semitism-problem/
     
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    Sen. Darren Bailey once said the Holocaust doesn’t compare to abortion deaths.

    The Republican candidate for governor told that to supporters while he was running for state representative in 2017. This video from Oct. 12, 2017, highlighted Bailey’s concern with former Republican Gov. Bruce Rauner signing House Bill 40 to protect a woman’s right to choose abortion.
    https://www.wgem.com/2022/08/02/ant...holocaust-comments-are-shameful-unacceptable/

    Self-described “lifetime member” of the anti-government Oath Keepers Wendy Rogers, a Republican member of the Arizona State Senate running for re-election, has appeared on the antisemitic TruNews streaming platform and tweeted support for Nick Fuentes, a white supremacist leader and organizer. She is also one of the loudest voices in the 2020 election-denial movement


    At least two dozen candidates have expressed admiration for or appeared in public alongside extremists. In September 2021, during a “Justice for J6 rally,” Arizona State Rep. Walter Blackman, U.S. congressional candidate (R-AZ), reportedly told the crowd, "The Proud Boys came to one of my events and that was one of the proudest moments of my life.” In March 2021, former Texas GOP chair and 2022 Texas gubernatorial candidate Allen West appeared on the same stage as Oath Keeper leader Stewart Rhodes during an anti-immigration rally in Laredo, Texas.

    In June 2021, Nick Taurus, U.S. congressional candidate (R-CA), took to social media to boast about meeting with Nick Fuentes, a white supremacist leader and organizer. Sharing a photo of himself posing with Fuentes he tweeted “A legend and inspiration to us all!” On Facebook Taurus shared the same photo with the caption, “This guy is the truth and it was an absolute honor to meet him! AMERICA FIRST IS INEVITABLE! #AMERICAFIRST #NICKFUENTES.” On January 6, 2022, Taurus tweeted, “A great night honoring the J6 Heroes!”

    https://www.adl.org/blog/extremism-on-the-ballot-in-2022
     
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    I can go and dig up 15 more examples of the same thing on the other side but I don't think data dumping is really all of that much of a debate technique
     
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    Agreed, I guess that's why such a high percentage of Jewish faith vote Dem (near 80%) VS GOPers though

    Nothing on the 159 GOPers standing with MTGreene though huh?


    The Long List of Marjorie Taylor Greene's Antisemitic, anti-Muslim Conspiracy Theories
    https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/202...theories/0000017f-db0d-d856-a37f-ffcda2410000
     
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    What percentage of the American electorate are the "KKK vote?"
     
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    I'd personally put it at about 60%-70% of Diaper Don's Fanboys


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    Yeah, isn't that what this thread is about?
     
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    Just making sure we’re in the same page. See the following:
     
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    OK that brings us all the way back to the beginning of this conversation.

    One of the frustrating things about this forum is how like Seinfeld, there is never any learning. You reach a certain point and simply start at the beginning of your argument and just repeat everything again, as if you're a bot and not an actual human person who should be able to inculcate new information.
     
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    So you don't have a good understanding either of statistics or the American electorate.

    Good to know!
     
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    I have no problem absorbing new information, I just disagree with what you have presented.

    Incessant screaming about illegal immigration, which for some reason is always addressed towards the southern border, is a clear statement of values to anyone paying attention. It’s a way to cry foul about the people you don’t like while avoiding the consequences of spouting your views. I’ve heard my parents, both conservatives, repeat Tucker Carlson talking points for ages. What do they talk about? The demographics of their communities changing. People speaking Spanish in public. Their culture is this that and the other. I’ve questioned them about this and they always retreat back to “I’m just talking about illegal immigrants.” While I can’t judge their mind and hearts, I can certainly judge their actions and words. And those betray their true xenophobic and, arguably, racist beliefs.

    By all means, continue to retreat to defending your words with talk of illegal immigrants, but know that you’re not fooling the people who pay attention.
     
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    Well now you are trying to shift away from the topic all together! I didn't bring up immigration, you did, and I simply responded that I thought you were wrong that immigration views had loosened in the GOP and that had anything to do with Hispanics moving to the GOP. Now you are are making a totally different argument.

    You really can't inculcate new information, you just automatically moved to a totally different topic, the only link being the word "immigration,"

    I hope smoke doesn't start coming out of your processing unit.
     
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    My opening comment in this thread was as follows:
    The response to which was a number of posters clutching their pearls at such a statement and claiming vehemently that they are only anti-illegal immigration. The post you just quoted was further expansion on my views. Please tell me how I am shifting away from the topic. I’ll be happy to course correct.
     
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    Gender Radicals not real popular with the "Latinx".

    How Gender Radicalism Conquered California Schools.

    "Sacramento City Unified School District has adopted a queer theory–based pedagogy that encourages teachers to “normalize gender exploration,” confront their “cisgender privilege,” and maintain strict secrecy when facilitating a child’s gender or sexual transition."

    Hello Groomers.

    They start grooming them in Kindergarten.

    "K-12 pedagogy. The “foundational concepts” of this approach follow the standard left-wing narrative. Western society has created a “Heterosexual Matrix,” composed of “Hegemonic Masculinity,” “Emphasized Femininity,” “Heteronormativity,” and “Heterosexism,” that underpins an oppressive system of “patriarchy,” “homophobia,” and “transphobia.” To 'liberate' schools from this system, administrators and districts must adopt “queer pedagogy” and “anti-oppressive pedagogy,” which will disrupt the “commonsense view of the world” and replace it with queer alternatives, emphasizing “gender non-conformity” and “gender and sexual diversity.”

    Don't Say Straight.
    "Teachers should follow different rules of classroom speech based on their own sexual identity. “If you are heterosexual, don’t state it. Allow yourself to be an ally while allowing others to be uncertain about your sexual orientation."

    Okay To Say Gay/Lez/Bi/Trans
    “If you are GLBT [sic], consider coming out to your employer, and if you get their support, your students/school.” Administrators work to build teacher-driven sexuality clubs and “equity task forces” within individual schools to promote “queer pedagogy” and “anti-oppressive pedagogy.”

    Radicalism cloaked in therapeutic language
    "The sexual ideology that has captured school districts such as Sacramento City Unified is a form of radicalism cloaked in therapeutic language. Most parents initially interpret words such as “affirming,” “privacy,” “trans-friendly,” “anti-bullying,” and “safe space” as extensions of basic empathy between institution and child. But as parents discover the true nature of the ideology, they will recoil and mobilize against it. For most families, the idea that a school can promote synthetic sexual identities to young children while keeping parents in the dark is a terrifying overreach. These districts are driving a wedge between parent and child. Parents must reject this usurpation of authority."

    To the Courts and the Voting Booths.
     
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    As you said, this was your opening comment.

    Because, and to quote myself :

    As predicted, at this point I can simply copy/paste from myself since you seem stuck on a track of repeating yourself.
     
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    Sure, Diaper Donny has about 40% approval, I'd suggest about 60%-70% of that 'Circus" love that he's on the borderline with David Duke and Diaper Don's boss, Putin
     
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    Sadly, you and you ilk probably believe that nonsense
     
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    I see your argument consists of cartoons! Eh, I guess it's the best you could do...
     
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    Post includes the supporting links.
     
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    To blog nonsense, nothing credible, typical right wing noise machine garbage. Not even up to Tuckie "Whitey" Carlson's "standards"
     
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    Well I hear a whole lot more talk about “groomers” and trans people than I do “build that wall” these days. Do you disagree?
     

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