China Wants Answers From US About Bio Labs in Ukraine

For starters, China has a very capable foreign intelligence unit and probably already know the answers. This is China's way of trying to see if their intelligence was right or not and to see how well US intelligence is in the area. In all likelihood, China is trying to get a picture of what US assets are in the area and identify them for future reference and operations. The rest is just a smoke screen.

 

There were no US Bio labs in Ukraine. There was, just prior to the war breaking out, a threat reduction program under the Nunn-Lugar Cooperative Threat Reduction (CTR) program. This began when Barak Obama was a Senator from Illinois, I might add.

https://www.armscontrol.org/act/200...extends-reach-ukrainian-biological-facilities

https://www.politifact.com/factchec...are-no-us-run-biolabs-ukraine-contrary-socia/

 

Alas poor Ole Joe is confused by most questions. Stick to the easy stuff like......."Vanilla or Chocolate"......."Cup or Waffle Cone?"....

 

Lots of red flags, here. #1-- Sputnik News; not that it is impossible for there to be any truth to a Sputnik story but, according to them, it should be borne in mind, there is no war currently occurring, in Ukraine.


#2-- The target of the story is the U.S.'s Department of Defense labs (not too suspicious, there). And the implications flower from supposed Ukranian documents, publicized by the Russian military.

Aren't they the ones who claim that there is a Russian genocide that's been taking place for 8 years, in the Donbas, where cities have been also purportedly bombed for all that time, with ne'er sign of either of those things, to outside observers? I wonder how many years it will take for the RUSSIAN army to flatten a city.

Also, the suggestion is that the lab, referred to in the memo, is a U.S. Military Bio Lab, but the order to destroy samples is purportedly coming from, not the U.S., but the Ukranian Minister of Health. This allows for only the possibility, if this isn't actually a Ukranian lab, that then there is nothing being kept secret, from the host country.


#3-- But, by far the funniest part, is that the main subject of the story is not this dubious, "discovered" memo, but that the Chinese, without making any specific allegations, are trying to cast aspersions on OUR labs-- wait, that's not the humorous part. It's that they are insinuating that the stated purpose of these labs, to do, "joint work, to reduce biosecurity risks and strengthen global health," is just a pretext! Yet that sounds an awful lot like the description of what the Wuhan Lab was up to (& for which it had previously taken U.S. dollars, in working with our own, National Health Administration).


So what makes China so confident, that it is just a pretext?


Guilty conscience?

 

Maybe you didn't get the memo that the 'no US bio labs in Ukraine' was outed as fake news. There's a whole slew of those SOBs funded by the Department of Defense. As I linked above, they were on the US Embassy's website. I repeat, US Embassy's site.

And here is further confirmation today from one of the most vile people alive Victoria Nuland (who is ******** her pants at what the Russians will find):

This staged question and answer is a set up for a coming false flag attack. This is Syria all over:



Nuland staged the Coup in 2014 Ukraine now she's going to stage a FF attack. Mark it.

 

And all the incriminating documents that were left behind the "well scrubbed" labs?

 

Could anybody explain what this person said? I am a foreign and can't get a sense.

 

Because of it they were founded by the Pentagon.

Therefore, they have the top level secrecy.

 

US Admits There Are Biolabs in Ukraine, Warns If There's A Biological Attack 'It'll Be Russia's Fault' - News Punch
Testifying before a Senate Foreign Relation Committee hearing on Ukraine in Washington, DC, on Tuesday, she said that the US was working with Ukraine to ‘prevent invading Russian forces from seizing biological research material’.

The Russian Defence Ministry had recentely stated that they had found evidence of US-funded Biolabs in Ukraine which had urgently destroyed samples of deadly pathogens when the ‘military operation’ started.

Russia has also claimed that Ukraine was close to building a plutonium-based dirty bomb nuclear weapon. On March 6, Moscow’s foreign ministry tweeted that Russian forces had found evidence that Kyiv was eradicating traces of the military-biological program in Ukraine, financed by the Pentagon.

 

Offensive biological warfare is prohibited under customary international humanitarian law and several international treaties. In particular, the 1972 Biological Weapons Convention (BWC) bans the development, production, acquisition, transfer, stockpiling and use of biological weapons. Wiki

 

I think you missed your calling as a writer for comic strips in the local newspaper.

Arms Control Organization is not fake news. They are the leading experts in this field and know what is and what is not going on.

 

That claim turned out to be Russian propaganda, and not surprisingly you quote it from Sputniknews, which is a known Russian government propaganda outlet.

 

Russian propaganda as confirmed by Victoria Nuland in the video from yesterday and the US Embassy. Got it.

 

I struggle to understand why some Americans refuse to believe that their Government wouldn't be entailed to bioweaponry, given they have form in this kind of thing...

“On what basis of law does the U.S. government of the United States justify the dispersion of a large collection of bacteria over the civilian population in an experiment…without informed consent?”

Incredibly, Kern also attested that the Army needed no permission to spray the public without consent or knowledge. The Federal Torts Claims Act, established in 1946, gave the public the right to sue the Federal government — but it came with limitations. Among them, a vaguely-worded “discretionary function” made the feds immune to suits in which they were “performing appropriately under policy.” The dousing of civilians in bacteria, contended Kern, qualified as such.

How the U.S. Government Tested Biological Warfare on America - Priceonomics

Now, if the US can do that to its own citizens... then surely it is no great leap of faith to assume the US would partner with a corrupt nation to create bioweapons in Ukraine?

 

All Victoria Nuland said was that there was bio labs in Ukraine. In her official statements, she never said directly or indirectly that the US had labs, but in fact were part of a cooperation agreement between the US and Ukraine since 2007, aka George Bush Jr Era. Victoria Nuland also stated that Russian forces may be actively seeking those labs for "nafaroius purposes"

Biologocical research faciities does not mean military bio labs of any kind.

Details matter.

 

Hell, if we were engaged in chemical/biological warfare research in collaboration with the Chinese in their Wuhan labs, why should it be surprising that we were similarly involved in Ukraine...?

BTW, chemical/biological warfare methodology is NOTHING NEW. I remember that even back during the Vietnam War, nearly every major nation in the world already had had such initiatives in development for DECADES.

. World War One? That mask was more than a 'fashion-statement'....

 

We were never engaged in biological/chemical warfare in the Wuhan Lab. That is a false flag by the far right to try to distract how seriuos the Covid was from the beginning and not what Trump said in February 2020.

 

Thank you Dr. Fauci for your contributions to this thread.

 

I don't know about that. I have a problem believing anything coming out of our government and the main stream media since I have a long memory and over the years, I have caught them in one lie after another. The most recent example are the lies Blinken spit out 2 months ago - one of which was that Nato never promised Russia it wouldn't advance into Eastern Europe.

First of all as I said, I don't believe anything coming out of our government or the corporate media - that is unless it's confirmed through my past recollections of events. If it is true, then it's obvious that Xi doesn't trust Washington's intent - and frankly I wouldn't blame him in that.

Besides how can you compare an accidental release of a virus from a lab, with our military establishing bio labs next to Russia's borders? That's like saying if someone accidentally kills someone then they're as guilty as a murderer. The Pentagon had only one reason for those military labs next to Russia and that was for biological warfare. From what I know the Air Force was collecting DNA from a certain area in Russia a few years back. This means they were checking into the immunity of certain populations. Wouldn't that be akin to genocide?

Who cares? That's a propaganda gimmick by the neo cons to demonize Vladimir Putin like they did Assad and Miloshevic before him. I had never found any substance in any of their accusations other than a quest for war against certain populations.

Then again I have read Putin's speeches and I know his policies and beliefs - which by the way I agree with. Since Washington's accusations towards Russia and Vladimir Putin are usually what we ourselves are doing, much of it is paranoia. Many an innocent person has been crucified because of it. As for Miloshevic, he was even killed before his trial so he couldn't prove his innocence - yet during another persons trial later on, he was found innocent of all crimes.

About a week ago I posted a video of Russell Bentley who has been in Donetsk since 2014. The video was from April 2021 and he mentioned the American Generals and forces that had come to Ukraine with the obvious intent to start a war. That video was now removed from Youtube.

As for provocation, how about genocide? We invaded and bombed Serbia for 78 days and killed thousands including children under an excuse of genocide when there was none, and yet the people that supposedly were being killed weren't even Americans. And yet you're saying Russia shouldn't have interfered to stop a real genocide towards people who are Russians themselves?

I had seen videos of the progrom of the Russian speaking protesters from Crimea and the burning and hacking of the ones in the Trade Union Bldg. In Odessa, I saw protesters approaching nationalist tanks in Mariupol and being shot at, and I could go on and on.

Here is one example of what our installed government in Kiev did to the Russian leaning population of Lugansk when they voted for special rights.


Here are the most recent examples of what the people in Donetsk had to endure from our installed government in Kiev and the ones we support:

 

Try Arms Control Organization and their experts from 7 different nations including the United States.

 

For starters, NATO, per the Minsk Accords in 2014, promised to nevere "actively pursue NATO membership" with Ukraine. However, Ukraine, as a sovereign nation was actively pursuing NATO and EU Membership as leverage against Russia and the two breakaway regions. No lie was committed by NATO or the Governement.

Second, Russia and Putin are the aggressors. Remember, Putin believed he would be welcomed in open arms in Ukraine. That is not happening now. He try to use the NATO argument, and NATO is not actively pursuing Ukraine. If they did, you will be seeing the no fly zone.

Finally, Ukrainian government has not done anything to the people of the provience you are speaking of. All that was done by Russian Seperatists, supported by Putin, to try to break Ukraine piece by piece.

 

Total BULLSHIT, WE HAVE NO CHEM LABS IN UKRAINE and never have had any.

 

That's because it doesn't make sense..

He believes that are bioweapons in Ukraine that are going to be used against Russia.

No labs, no weapons, and they would be using pathogens or engineered diseases in their own country.

To sum up, it's lunacy.

 

What do you think all that "gain-of-function" research in the Wuhan labs was about? It was what it was, even though Fauci squirmed so hard to avoid being honest about it.

It shouldn't surprise anyone anyway... as I said, chemical/biological warfare research has been conducted for well over a hundred years already, and evidently everyone but you knows it....

Truth? Some negligent half-wit at the lab let the virus get out because of carelessness and stupidity, and hopefully you do know at least that much....

 

It's called research. The same type of research you see in the various biomedical labs at major research hospitals in the US and throughout the world. SARS, Covid-2 is still being researched because it still exists. So in the Phillippines, their biomedical research labs are with the Junta Virus, Demange Fever, and other varous diseases including Cobra snake venom. There are international protocols in place and the bioresearch labs in Ukraine are under Russian attack. This has nothing to do with WMD at all. Even Arms Control Organization states that nothing nefarious was going on and they keep taps on this stuff despite what governments say or don't say.

you may want to think again.