China Wants Answers From US About Bio Labs in Ukraine

No it wasnt. No mention of "US Biolabs" or "Bioweapon labs".
There are UKRANIAN biological labs, most of them were previously Soviet Union biolabs.

 

listen guy, if you would have followed the supplied links, then you could have read and seen the Department of Defense fact sheets for approximately 15 labs, 8 of which the Department of Defense is/was the exclusive operator.

NEW labs.

What part of 'Department of Defense' eludes you?

 

Not as leverage towards Russia and the breakaway regions, but rather to impose what they want on those territories by force. Do you even know why they broke away? They broke away when the Russian protesters in Odessa were burned alive in the Trade Union building and those who jumped to escape were hacked.

The lie was the promises made by the US and the other Nato countries that they wouldn't move even an inch further east when Russia allowed East Germany to unite with West Germany. That promise was broken 4 times as Nato incorporated more and more nations of the former Warsaw pact.

Russia went to the UN with visual proofs of the genocides committed by the neo Nazis in areas that were under their control in Donbass. Russia had the right to serve in Donetsk on a peace keeping mission, and if the attacks on Donetsk continued, which they did, then they had a legal right to stop them and protect the people - which they are doing.

Oh, then the people in the Donbass are killing themselves to make the Ukrainians look bad? I get it!

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If I recall correctly, they were under the US military, and the one near Kharkov was suspect as being the cause of a virus breakout in the area in 2014.

 

Were they US operated labs or was the US overseeing the cleanup of the Soviet mess?

 

Wow deep. Victoria Nuland told us there are bio research labs in Ukraine. She is the #2 at Biden's state dept. So you can dispense with the bullcrap about calling people Putin allies. Our government admitted it!

 

So that begs the question why is there any US military of any kind in a non NATO country? These idiots wanted Putin to invade Ukraine.

 

FYI Victoria Nuland was a chief advisor to that pig Dick Cheney during our abysmal failures in Iraq. As Tucker likes to point out failing miserably is a good way to get ahead in Washington.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victoria_Nuland

Oh yeah in a leaked phone call between Nuland and the then ambassador of Ukraine in 2014 they discuss which puppet prime minister to install in Ukraine. She was working for Obama then of course.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26079957

So you libos can dispense with the bullcrap about Ukraine being the fountain of democracy. Every damn thing Obama and Biden have done in Ukraine was in invitation for invasion! Would we tolerate Russian financed bio weapons labs 2 feet from us in Matamoros Mexico?

 

Biden is Putin's voice then.

 

OK, I understood. Your post doesn't make sense.

Sorry, I am foreigner. According my modest knowledge about English for Victoria Nuland it's necessary using "she".

Yes. America has killed the dollar.

 

The post you chose to quote and respond to didnt even include the phrase "Department of Defense". Scurrying about for refuge in your next strawman?

 

Yes I do. In 2014, you had major elections and civil unrest against the current government who was very friendly toward's Putin. Those clashes, both by pro Maidan and anti Maidan forces started in Odessa. In the fog of the event, it is very hard to say who started what first. Bear in mind, Viktor Yanukovych was starting to use brute force on peaceful demostrators prior to the election of 2014 that outed him from power. Ofter the Odessa fire, the pro Russian supporters wanted to play drama queens and decided that they cannot work with the opposition party and therefore broke away. Anyone who is not Pro Russian in those terroritories were forced to leave their homes and businesses. Many of whom reseltled in the Kyiv area and are now fighting for their homeland.

The United States made two promises. First in 1992 that Europe and the US will protect Ukraine from any aggressor. Well, that is not happening now, is it. Second was in 2014 where NATO was not to actively pursue. That does not mean that Ukranian government can't pursue if it wants to. It just means we won't actively pursue.

Russia went to the UN AFTER they invaded Ukraine, as their response from Europe, US and other nations. That is not proof, that is an excuse after the fact. If they had any proof whatsoever, they would have gone to the UN Human Rights Council first. That would have been a lot easier to prove and get something done since the US is no longer on that council. But Putin didn't do that.

Putin first said that it was only "Nazis" in the government and that Russian forces would be hailed as "liberators." That did not happen, did it. He then used the NATO argument. Other nations kept pointing out that small detail about actively pursuing and Putin had no answer. He then went on TV first, his TV to state that there was "genocide" going on, mostly made up by Russian seperatists in the two breakaway regions, and who want to control all of Ukraine for themselves, and then he is now using the big lie argument.

The people in Donbass want Ukraine, all of it, for themselves. They are willing to say and do anything to achieve that goal.

 

Yes, there are Bio research labs, but NOT United States Bio Research labs.

Details matter folks.

 

I read the links. None provided proof. Ineundo, hearsay, opinion yes. But no proof whatsoever.

 

I believe they are level 3 labs, not really a significant threat. Lots of good scientists and engineers in Ukraine.

 

No they were not. They were under a cooperative agreement that began in 2007, George Bush Jr Era where Obama was then a senator. They have been operating under that agreement since 2007, even when a pro Russian President was in power in Ukraine.

 

Yes, but she's a bit player.

The idea that Ukraine has bioweapons, or would use them in their own country, is just plain dumb.

 

So, diplomats can’t express their opinions of politicians running for elections in private phone calls? All she said is that Yatsenyuk was “our guy”, which can be interpreted in many different ways. Russian propagandists push it as proof of something, even though it was just an expression of opinion about who they believed would be the best candidate from American perspective. Do you think other diplomats don’t have such conversations for each country that has elections?

 

I despise lies, hypocrisy and injustice. Anyway this is not a war against Ukraine, it is a war against the formation of the one world government and the enslavement of mankind that the financial 'elites' are trying to impose on the world. This is why the US and Europe are so up in arms.




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The complete detachment from reality on full display for all to see.

 

You're RIGHT! It is "research" -- and nobody with any sense denies that (including me). And, what I said was that if it is indeed conducted throughout the world, in "biomedical labs" (as you said), then why would it be a *shocker* that it was conducted in Ukraine as well -- with, or without U. S. participation...?

Our own 'research' into these politically-sensitive matters has gone on, as I said, for DECADES... and as far as Fauci and the whole 'gain-of-function' thing at the Wuhan Labs is concerned, I've got some reading material for you below! And please bear in mind, I couldn't care less if we are conducting 'research' into chemical/biologicial warfare methodologies and 'ingredients'. Indeed, it would be negligence if we DIDN'T conduct such 'research', because every other above-average nation in the world conducts such 'research', and has conducted it for over a hundred years!

BUT, it would probably be a hell of a lot smarter and better to conduct and fund such 'research' somewhere besides countries that have a strong potential to be adversaries who act against us... and, yes, CHINA does come immediately to mind....

https://nypost.com/2021/10/21/nih-a...ion-in-wuhan-despite-faucis-repeated-denials/
https://www.wbko.com/2021/10/21/nih...n-of-function-wuhan-lab-sen-rand-paul-reacts/
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/10/nih-admits-funding-risky-virus-research-in-wuhan

 

The bio labs are under the US military otherwise Victoria Nuland would not have been questioned. Besides I have a long memory, and I remember the one in Kharkov being mentioned in 2014 as being the cause of an outbreak of the flu. So it's not something new - or at least not to me. I also recall a few years back, that the US airforce was paying for the DNA of Russians from a certain area. Why, if not to find out if they were vulnerable to certain diseases for biological warfare?

True to form, our State Dept. in order to distract from it, came out with their usual lies. This time it's about Russia using chemical warfare.

This reminds me of the time we bombed a hospital in Afghanistan which infuriated the Doctors Without Borders. So to distract the public from what we had done, our government controlled medias began accusing Russia of bombing six hospitals in Syria - all of them were non existent except for one which was perfectly intact.

 

Ah yes I forgot, the Great Reset and One World Government is just a conspiracy theory.

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No. Not delusional.

I work for a living. I’m sure you do too.

So does “she”. “She” knows exactly what “she” is saying.

 

The problem I have is that somehow biomedical research is automatically somehow akin to "military grade biomedical" research. That is a far leap and you see that with all the OP and posts here stating that it must be US's fault for being in a coopertive agreement with Ukraine on biomedical research.

To make a similar anology, it would be to say that anyone who has a screwdriver in their hands must be a burglar out to break into a house or car to steal stuff. That type of gross overgeneralizations, along with the gross overgeneralizations you have made, is what I am arguing against.

You have to be precise in your arguments or accusations, not posting something that alludes to the fact that the "United States" or any other country must be up to no good.