Chinese Reparations

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  1. AmericanNationalist

    AmericanNationalist Well-Known Member

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    Evolution caused covid? You lost me there. I'm a believer both in Creationism(now, whether or which "god" was creator. That I'm an agnostic on. But I do believe we are Intelligent Design.) and at the same time evolution. Just because we were created, meant that our birth was the finished product. We've evolved into our present day reality.
     
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    Trump would be monumentally more likely to arrest the SPCA. And, what makes you think there is animal abuse? I mean there MIGHT be, but hunters, meat packing, etc. all over the world slaughter animals.

    So, you want to sue them for not being humanitarian enough? And, with NO evidence of them not being humanitarian enough?

    Let's keep this thread on track with the OP.
     
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    First of all, bat soup is a problem since the virus originated in bats... so stop crying racism....just STOP EATING THE BATSOUP DAMMIT, it has coronaviruses & Ebola!

    I have real issue with rhino horn... ok, this is a massive problem and China is also entirely to blame for poaching and endangering of rhinos...

    Pence is doing a brilliant job, Trump made a good decision there... your claims he doesn't believe in science is absurd, he's closely following advice from health officials and embracing the progress American scientist have made so far.. which I might add is significant. American scientists have done an incredible job thus far.... as acknowledged by the Trump Administration
     
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    It's all of the above. Their anti-humanitarian practices are not only inhumane, but contributed greatly to a virus that biologically speaking(as per the video in the OP post) would have almost no chance to exist.

    And in the link I posted, even India has a food regulatory agency. It's not a matter of money. It would appear China controls everything except what's important.
     
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    If it was strategically released, it was an act of bio warfare and should be treated as such.
     
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    Source?
     
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    ?? It's COVID19 that is the product of evolution. Eveolution is the reason we need new flu vaccines every year, why our antibiotics are being conquered, etc.

    And, the idea that humans are a "finished product" is clearly shown to be false - but that's for another thread.
     
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    OK, but it is VERY clear that it was not strategically released.

    AND, when the info got to China's government, they provided us with the full info, including bio samples and what their experts had learned.
     
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    How do we know? It's a fact, they knew about it over a month and did NOT restrict travel. Have you not heard about how Italy, became a hotspot? It was direct travel by the Chinese.
     
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    He has stated that there is no medical downside from smoking.

    He made that case in an op-ed article published in 2000 and has made no public effort to update his position since.

    "Time for a quick reality check," Pence wrote. "Despite the hysteria from the political class and the media, smoking doesn't kill. In fact, 2 out of every three smokers does not die from a smoking related illness and 9 out of ten smokers do not contract lung cancer."
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    FB say's....Does not sound like what you claimed, he admitted some % get ill
     
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    We have detailed information concerning that period. We know that when their scientists started stating an alarm, the local government put them down. But, once the government of China found out they took direct action in firing the local govern;ment and giving us their full information.

    We've had people travel when they should not have, too. We didn't close down travel to Europe until very recently - when we knew we had lots of cases AND when we knew that Europe had lots of cases. When we DID impliement travel slowdown, it was spotty and NOT directed based on medical science.

    Should Trump be sued for reperations for that? Did Trump take any of these actions in order to cause spread to Trump's perceptions of enemies?

    These conspiracy stories are just plain nonsense. We in the USA need to focus on the USA.
     
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    You should have kept reading, as the article points out how MONUMENTALLY contrary to science your copied Pence quote is.

    The question here is whether Pence consults science to form policy. And, the several examples I gave shows that he does NOT do that. In fact, his history is of ignoring science even to the point of doing the opposite of what science recommends.
     
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    Of course not, the left protested it as "xenophobic and racist" when Our President, wanted to do, just that!


    I dont believe all these claims, with no sources.
     
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    What you claimed and what he said, are two different things. He admitted a % take i'll....you stated he said it was harmless. Focus.
     
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    OK.

    Show me your source.
     
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    His statements concerning smoking were GROSSLY and inexcusably false.

    Plus, the particular quote is NOT all he said.

    The fact is, Pence has a record of ignoring or even countering science.
     
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    Engaging in "chase your tail" for me to state, what we all heard?
     
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    You said he said it was, essentially harmless.
    Wrong, you were in error.

    It really is, that cut and dried.
     
  20. WillReadmore

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    No. I just don't believe you've found a real reaction.

    What I heard had a lot more to do with the piecemeal approach that medical science was stating wasn't a help and his constant blaming of China - which again has been politically oriented.

    And, this IS one more example of Trump''s reaction being based on politics rather than science. Another is that he exempted UK - somthing that was clearly based on politics, not science.
     
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    https://www.buzzfeednews.com/articl...er-great-old-op-eds-from-mike-pen#.peNE85VgkG

    No, he has stated that smoking doesn't kill. And, as my other link shows he has stubbornly refused to believe what science says about tobacco use.

    He's also accused congress of being deranged in its concern about tobacco
     

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