Classified documents from Biden's time as vice president discovered at Penn Biden Center

Man... desperate...Did you even read your link or just Googled for something?

"There are four categories of people who can declassify a document under the executive order: the official who originally classified it, their successor, a supervisory official of either the originator or their successor, or officials given declassification authority in writing by an agency head."

Biden could only declassify documents that HE classified.

 

Exactly. PolitiFact is just carrying water for him because they know people will ignorantly cite their claim that Trump was "falsely" stating Biden could declassify those documents. When Biden's attorneys have already said he wasn't supposed to have them, and they're looking to shift the blame elsewhere. Could Biden declassify documents he created and classified himself? Sure. Is that what is being discussed with the documents in his possession? No.

 

Was Trump a Vice President?

 

Biden had these documents for more than six years. He knew he had them. He’s the one who removed them and stored them.

He turned them over after his personal legal team scoured these documents. A personal legal team with no security clearance which would allow them access to this material.

 

The president can declassify anything.

 

He wasn't president then.

 

If you please sir, I found some more....

 

Lol, how did you get through this thread and not realize these documents were from Biden's time as Senator and VP?

 

The EO does not include a president’s authority to declassify information. There is no written authority for a president except the Constitution.

 

The EO was written by a President, who already had declassification authority.

 

Yes but an EO can not supersede the Constitution. A president can declassify information regardless of whether they classified it or not. Obama’s EO does not apply to presidents.

 

No it doesn't, it applies to his administration. But Obama's EO in spite of posts to the contrary, doesn't absolve or help Biden in this current legal issue. Maybe Biden, as President should issue a retroactive "it's cool Jack" EO and watch the fun when the courts go after it.

 

I did. I read your comments to be saying he still can’t declassify some stuff.

 

I don't know what you mean. He "can’t declassify some stuff" as President or as VP and Senator?

 

Oh, so you think that Biden declassifying documents today that he stole 20 years ago as a senator fixes this?

 

Didnt say that either

 

oh FFS, stop moving the goalposts

Joe Biden is now the POTUS, he can declassify everything he has in his garage and you know it. So does he have that right or now

 

Criminal law doesn't work that way. Not even close. Ironic, since you accuse others of moving goalposts in this post. Technically, he can pardon himself though.

 

OK, so your saying that since Trumps were found AFTER he was POTUS, he should be charged also then right ?

 

This isn't difficult. When something is "found" has nothing to do with whether or not their actions were a crime.

 

Again, you keep trying to move the goalposts

Trump was found to have classified docs AFTER he was POTUS. So how is that different than Biden ?

But based on what your claiming here, how is Biden any more culpable.

 

Nothing I have said is inconsistent. The only consistency is your confusion.

Trump was found to have declassified documents that he took while President. The difference is that Trump had the power of the Presidency to declassify any documents at will and to make the determination of what type of record they would be considered for archiving purposes. Biden had none of that power because he was Vice President and Obama's Executive Order prevented him from doing so.

Biden doesn't have the luxury of considering classified documents to be declassified without following proper procedures. Everything we know thus far indicates the Biden documents are still classified and Biden never claimed the power to declassify them. If he took declassified documents without authority he violated the law. In Trump's case, he was the ultimate authority for all of the documents in his possession so getting any criminal charge to stick is basically a non-starter.

 

WRONG

FACT: Even the Judge said there was no record of what he had having been declassified.

You cannot make this up with a team of writers

You literally cannot make this up with a team of writers: Your claim is that Trump as President had the "power of the presidency to declassify any document at will" and then unilaterally determine if he wanted to let anyone know or not. But Biden as Vice President violated a law by just possessing these docs (even though he has security clearance), and as President doesn't have any right to declassify ?

 

Why did Biden’s lawyers look in the closet at Penn? Lawyers don’t usually pack and move things is why I ask.