Climate Activist Greta

So, let’s all say fk it and just burn as much oil as we possibly can and spend more then we have to make oil Barron’s richer. Solar and wind power is now cheaper then fossil fuels. So, just because we don’t beleive it, let’s soend more. Makes sense to the uninformed.

Yup, you are oversimplifying things. It’s pretty much a religion with deniers and they like paying tithings to oil companies.

 

I didnt say any of that so if you want to argue those points argue them with yourself.

all I said is that I think we as a species are capable of mitigation, and migration if and when needed.

that means I'm not particularly panicking about this upcoming "mass extinction " because a) I'll die of old age anyway and b) we can and will adjust along the way.

no reason to not get greener as we go, it would be nice if even just a few world leaders led by example. Hell, just try to calculate the carbon footprint of the collective Democratic candidates in the next 12 months, (you know the ones talking about going green) it's going to be atrocious.

in the meantime I'm not selling my car or wearing hemp just yet, and I'm still flying to ireland for vacation. If the Koch brothers are going to make a profit off of that activity that it's because they've got a better deal on the table right now.

 

We as a species are dependent upon other species and their developmental cycles for our health and we’ll being. It’s called evolution and it involves the interrelationship amongst them.. So, thinking that we can build a few retaining walls, move to higher ground or whatever, while sea water wipes out farm lands and diseases spread at a rate much greater then we can find cures for, completely neglects our scumming to the pressure put on all the species we depend upon and all the other species who depend upon our not surviving. It’s not going to be pretty if adaptability of competing life forms that evolve greater then we can adapt. “ mitigation and migration “ is just “ shuck and jive”. Some don’t seem to get it. The unrest throughout the world we are experiencing through mass migration enhanced by climate change....
is happening now.

 

So, you’re single and have no kids or grand children, or if you do, you don’t give a fk about them. Doesn’t make sense to spend more to fix something when it costs less to avoid it.

 

Sea level was much higher during the last interglacial so if you think you can stop mother nature, you are just fooling yourself.

 

It’s not about stopping “ Mother Nature”. It’s about adapting. The interglacial period stretch out over tens of thousands of years, plenty of time for early humans ( if there were any) to pack up and move their beach side summer homes.
It’s not about how high, it’s about the rate of change, which is much more rapid since the Industrial Age began. Deniers never under stand that, or don’t want to. You don’t pack up and move nyc cheaply , even in a life time.

 

She has Aspbergers.

Asperger’s syndrome (AS) is one of a group of neurological disorders known as autism spectrum disorders (ASDs). AS is considered to be on the mild end of the spectrum. People with AS exhibit three primary symptoms: difficulty with social interaction.
Asperger’s Syndrome: Causes, Symptoms, and Diagnosis
www.healthline.com/health/asperger-syndrome

 

“ Just A Man “ ?, doubtful.

 

Have kids yes but i'm not going to stop driving my car or heating/cooling my home, and the response you gave isn't going to contribute positively to the discussion, you are welcome to sell your vehicle and walk everywhere, disconnect your HVAC, and of course stop using the mountain of plastic and mined metals needed for your insult to travel across the internet for me to see. As we speak I am literally surrounded by plastic and burned a half a gallon getting to my climate controlled work-space, I don't anticipate that changing much at all in the next decade or so before I retire.

Honestly i'm more concerned about other things like an economic collapse, WW3, than I am concerned about computer model projected ocean levels that won't get near my home (i'm at 8 feet sea level) until decades after i'm dead.

So basically, I encourage you to double down on your conservation efforts because there is little that I can/will do to help the cause at this stage, my footprint is smaller than most already, and it is significantly smaller than probably 99% of all politicians in DC who are not leading by example.

 

No one says anyone has to dwell over AGW more then your arthritis pain interfering with your next round of golf. But, to completely disregard it and think it doesn’t affect your life dramatically when it comes time to vote, is ridiculous.
Geezus, when building my carport, the price of building materials jumped 20% every time the Effin military had a run on plywood during the Iraq war. One party lives recessions which kills your retirement plans and couldn’t care less about the real causes of migration in our southern border. You think the cost of everything isn’t going up dealing with extreme weather events ? Laughable. . I would not let it run my daily life , but I wouldn’t have my head in sand either.

You don’t anticipate it changing anything in the next decade ?
That’s funny. Not well thought out, but funny.

 

According to St. Algore, NY was supposed to be under water by now. None of the algorites dire gloom and doom predictions have come true.

 

Quote them.

 

I don't anticipate my habits changing in the next decade, and its pretty well thought out, i'll commute there and home about 2,000 times in the next decade and my computers and electronic devices will be made from plastic and mined minerals, my roads will be made from asphalt and my homes foundation will still be cement, my walls made of plaster and harvested wood, my shingles will be either metal or asphalt, etc.

I'm actually a good candidate for an electric vehicle if that makes you feel better BUT it won't be a 35K tesla that's for dam sure, I've read the studies on how much money an EV can save but my current vehicle has 190K miles and cost $2750 when I bought it 2 years ago, its pretty much done depreciating, most likely my next vehicle will cost between 3K and 7K and will be internal combustion but it will likely get better than 21mpg, my fuel costs are negligible since I only drive about 6K miles a year so i'm a candidate due to proximity to work but I won't overpay for transportation, I just need to get from A to B.

I'd consider solar as costs do keep going down but my electric bills are under 2K for my entire home so maybe in the near future it will make sense but not if the cost recapture is over 7-8 years, I'd rather pay as I go and my utility is adding solar fields so they are doing my part already but again, when it makes sense for me financially, i'll do it.

I like where the democrats heart is as far as climate change but i'm not in panic mode myself and disagree with the dem's on so many other issues (taxes, immigration, abortion, giveaways) that they are not likely to sway me anytime soon.

 

Well, how much has the cell phone change your habits from 20 years ago. How much has digital tech changed everyone’s habits ?
Technology accelerated exponentially. Good luck with that prediction.

 

Where have you been.
Everything looks the same but everything you mentioned will likely be made from recycled plastic.
All new Foundations around here are insulated foam with poured concrete in the core. They use 1/4 the concrete and are seven times stronger. Our walls are more foam then wood and we get heat and hot water of the entire house near the Canadian border with one oil fill up an entire year. Everything else is passive solar. People have been slaves to oil. You want to keep being so, go for it.

 

uh, sure, they're literally building a house 20 feet from mine as we speak. From Foundation to roof the methods and materials have not changed it all from my house which was built 33 years ago. Same concrete same wood same shingles same electrical wiring same drywall same paint.

The only thing that's changed is the copper piping is now plastic.

With that said I hope they learn how to build more than park benches from recycled plastic because I think the pile of unused plastic is going to rival the Rockies soon.

I'm surrounded by petroleum products.

Didn't some lady on CBS decide to go 24 hours without using plastic and lasted less than 30 minutes? That was only because she waited to brush her teeth

 

Honestly the only difference I can think of is I don't subscribe to a newspaper anymore, although frankly I should re-subscribe because I think the newspaper doesn't better job delivering "news" than the internet does these days. My General job activities & the materials I use have not changed the car I drive is 20 years old so that certainly hasn't changed, still married to the same woman, gosh I'm pretty boring.

Also Netflix is pretty awesome.

So in the last decade frankly the only thing I can think of is I didn't have some random stranger tell me that I don't give a fk about grandkids that I dont have on a random forum because im not environmentally "woke" kudos!

 

And the radiant heating and the materials the insulation, wallboard etc are made from.
The reason it’s the same otherwise is, it’s 20 feet from your house and subject to the same archaic codes not hit by climate change. Like areas routinely hit by ravages of climate change including flooding, none of the homes destroyed by flooding will be rebuilt the same.

You have this idea that business as usual will continue. Employees installing solar now outnumber workers in the oil industry, you think the thousands who worked in mills and mines will be doing the same thing ? Nope. You’ll shortly be totally dependent on socialism .

 

So, shopping in line hasn’t completely altered store buying ? It has for the vast majority of Americans.

 

not really

building codes changed in 1994, again in 2002 in florida, mostly roof straps and shutters (metal) impact windows are for the wealthy, 15k upgrade.

I confident I'll be just fine, already nearing retirement. but good luck with that socialism thing, I hope it goes really well for you, I'm pretty much a bystander no matter what, just a question on how heavily I'll be taxed.

curious, where are all the solar panels going? I'm in south Florida and I rarely see panels, they are not that common, a few water heater panels here and there but not much else, which is actually odd.

and not much online shopping, I do walmart.com for about $50 a month laundry detergent and such, maybe do amazon 2-3x a year, but its overpriced IMO and returns can be a pain sometimes but we are empty nesters, we dont buy much crap.

 

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You’re a bystander ! So you don’t plan on enrolling in the Medicare or social security thing. After all, its socialism .
Florida. Ha ha. Good luck drinking bottled water.

 

You seem to be just itching to pick a fight but I'm not in the mood. but I do like bottled water.

 

You're the one making the slanderous remarks. You claim socialism is my thing and you’re on the verge of enrolling in the two biggest and most popular social programs ever developed in the US ? Your life is about to change big time when you do. Pretty hipocritcal. You’ll be totally dependent upon the govt. for just about all your healthcare expenses .

Btw. You’re enough in the mood to make five paragraph posts, bragging how your life hasn’t changed because you have twenty year old cars in staste that doesn’t have to face road salt and 20 degree below zero starting temperatures.
Florida is ground zero for climate change.

 

15k upgrade ?
And that expense was no big deal ? Funny how 15k upgrades doesn’t affect the life of a person who lives twenty feet from their neighbors and drives twenty year old cars.

 

my apologies for the socialist remark, that was rude.

no apologies for not jumping on the doom & gloom train. as I said earlier IMO we have bigger priorities and if we get more green along the way I'm good with that.

I'm honestly tired of jet setting hypocrites playing the do as I say not as I do game and really confused why it's not obvious to everyone. have a great day.