Climate change: February was hottest month on record as 'exceptional' Nasa shows

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  1. Vegas giants

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    No one wants to make oil $1000 a barrel. There are reasonable steps we can make to reduce AGW. We have already started them. No one need to take the extreme position of living in a cave to solve this problem. We can continue to have a prosperous country AND fight AGW.
     
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    the existence of el nino is recent. your notion that it explains the warming is merely wishful thinking and not science
     
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    El Nino's happen every 2 to 5 or so years and have been for a very long time. There are other oceanic cycles that affect weather. That is what is known as a fact.
     
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    All accounted for
     
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    So what explains the medieval warming period in the 1100's when the Earth was hotter than it is now? Followed by the Little Ice Age when it was much colder. Far as I know, nobody was driving SUVs during those times, there weren't many humans and most of them lived a subsistence lifestyle?

    "Science" is not "science" when the numbers are fudged to produce the desired outcome as the "global warming"/"climate change" hoaxers have done repeatedly. The "global warming" hoaxers are modern day alchemists seeking to turn fear mongering and unicorns into taxpayer gold and power over our lives.
     
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    it wasnt until the 20th century that el nino was considered. to boot, your el nino explains all is even more scientific BS.

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    ask the scientists that question. if rwers were such experts you would be able to tell us, yet nary a one can provide anything but cynicism.
     
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    LOL, it isn't until the 1950's that CO2 is considered relevant to warming. So what caused all the others before that? It is well known in science what drives El Nino's and it isn't CO2.

    I notice you are more interested in the politics of this than the science.
     
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    the 1950s is part of the 20th century. yeah right, el nino does everything
     
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    Ahh, a typical hoaxer answer: "None of my predictions based on computer models have proven true and its up to the skeptics to prove why."

    It is up to those who advance the "global warming" hoax to prove to those of us who call them out on their hoax based on the fact that their predictions haven't happened, cannot explain phenomena that disprove their hoax to prove to us why THEIR theories should be accepted.

    The smart people who don't believe in the "climate change" fairy dust don't have to advance any explanations as to why the hoaxer's theories are wrong. We require actual evidence, not faked data and computer models not proven by actual events. You know, science.
     
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    No numbers were "fudged" and all other warming periods have been accounted for. The consensus of every science organization on the planet is unanimous. AGW is real
     
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    I see you are not familiar with the ENSO cycle. Do you think weather is also recent?
     
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    well those computer were accurate that this past yr was the warmest, and the past decade has been the warmest.

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    is that all. more el nino, that is the extent of your discussion.
     
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    Not hard to have a warmest year at the top during a 2 decade long hiatus. The question next is, since we had an El Nino, will it be a step change, will the hiatus continue with La Nina's. Unlike the last El Nino, this one did not affect the Southern Atlantic at all. The NOAA predicts a 50% chance for La Nina. Pretty vague.

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    Hard to have a 'discussion' with someone clueless about the ENSO cycle.
     
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    The "warmest"? Based on what baseline. Did it include the Medieval Warm Period? Did it include the Little Ice Age which ended in the 1600's? Was it based on "adjusted" numbers, like the ones they changed from the South American weather stations wherein data physically read and recorded from the 50's was changed to make the numbers proving "global warming" come out the way the hoaxers want it to?
     
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    No, buckaroo, y'all are the ones that came along 4 billion years later to blame this on man. That means it's your theory to prove... And to be honest, it's almost as bad as claiming that your ancestors are monkeys.
     
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    It makes us trolls if we don't see things the same way the "tolerant" ones see things.

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    Sure thing, hotshot. Why don't you tell us what you're doing to combat man made global warming.

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    Some of the guys on here would rather take the word of a space program over the word of a water and atmospheric program to determine temperatures down here on Earth.
     
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    Sure thing wingnut. Right after you tell me what you are doing PERSONALLY to defeat ISIS? LOL
     
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    If humans are responsible for global warming then the only true answer to solve the issue is to kill, a lot of poeple
     
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    Humans were responsible for ozone depletion and we solved that problem without killing anyone. Try again
     
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    Keep your lights off and walk to work if you think you'll save the planet. Nobody else is concerned with this petty ass tax payer gold digging ignorant theory. Who out there is too retarded to understand that the Earth has had cold and hot spells for billions of years? Now suddenly the dollars of hard working tax payers are being wasted by funding a bunch of geeks that have finally figured out what's been causing these patterns for billions of years... It was man, electricity, and V8 engines this whole entire time. BLAST! We would've gotten away with it, too, if it weren't for you meddling climate scientists!
     
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    I'm voting for Trump.

    Now it's your turn, although answering a question with a question is a sure fire indicator that you don't have an answer.
     
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    I'm voting for Clinton. Clear enough for you skippy?

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    And if you think ISIS is a problem raise your right hand get a haircut pick up a weapon and stand a post. Because everyone should PERSONALLY do their part to solve every problem this country faces. Right?
     
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    Clear enough to tell me that you obviously don't care enough to do anything to personally combat something you feel is a threat.
     
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    Well, there ya to - I knew it was the sun all along, and all the rest of those piles of studies and paper piled as high as the sky showing direct links to human produced greenhouse gasses being pumped into the atmosphere was just so much silliness to keep those government types off welfare and politicians a new way to raise taxes and take our money. <sigh>

    BTW - you might want to check previous recent El Ninos and not they haven't even come closes to this one.
     
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    And are you just afraid to PERSONALLY fight ISIS? Hypocrite.
     

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