Colin Kaepernick explains why he sat during national anthem

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  1. ArmySoldier

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    It's not that I think Colin is un-American, it's that I think he hates America.
     
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    Only the 49ers can do something directly and they already have stated they support his right to not stand. Even then, who knows what his contract with them says.

    Now others also have the right to boycott his ass. Already he is losing sponsors, I'm sure he's stirred up trouble in the locker room and people can protest to the 49ers owner. However, the NFL itself can do nothing about this directly legally.

    I'll just be glad when he's gone. He was an arrogant ass when he was here in Nevada and he's a more arrogant ass in the NFL. I hope the 49ers find a way to get rid of him legally.

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    I agree with that. Protesting a government or ideology is one thing but when you burn the flag you are burning the ideology of America. That by definition would be un-American.
     
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    Gooddell can do whatever he wants. He's the god of Football.

    Hell. He'll probably promote Keapernick to Super Bowl Champion.
     
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    Noone from the NFL will do anything about it. Only the 49ers can. I have no idea what his contract says either but he's going to deal with a lot of (*)(*)(*)(*) in the locker at least. He'll learn what a REAL hostile environment to in is.
     
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    He is part of the college educated elite. He is a leader. His failure to present a detailed complaint and solutions discredits him.

    Especially given the self serving nature of his demonstration that will stop him from being cut from the team and protect the threatened revenue stream flowing into his bank account.
     
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    Only a democrat can determine the content of another's character by the color of their skin.
     
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    Nor is it a free speech issue. He is in his workplace working for his employer when he is on that field. If they issue a ruling that says all the players must stand, as in the NBA, then either he stands or they can sanction him, there is no "free speech" which he can claim.
    As I have said quite clearly why are you arguing with me about it? Those who claimed he has a 1st Amendment or any free speech claim here are patently wrong.
     
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    Sitting during the pledge offends more people than cops killing our unarmed citizens on a daily basis. Amazing.
     
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    And also killing unarmed civilians in Syria, Libya, Iraq, etc. for no logically-explainable reason doesn't seem to bother many people.
    http://news.antiwar.com/2016/08/26/us-killing-far-more-civilians-in-syria-than-theyll-admit/

    Standing for the flag or not seems like a freedom of speech issue covered by the Bill of Rights.
     
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    No (*)(*)(*)(*)ting on the country is the issue not him sitting... Read... his.....comments.....
     
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    Wow, hyperbole much? One, cops don't even kill black criminals on a daily basis, average is around once every 28 hours. Second, most blacks shot are armed, so to say "unarmed" drops that stat down to maybe once a month. Factor out those who are fighting back, and you get maybe 2 a year for your original guidelines.

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    Yeah, not much of a controversy last year when Cam Newton did it, and hes "full black".
     
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    Oh Yeah, but he lost the Superbowl...karma!!
     
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    While police murder unarmed civilians and the larger society does nothing, how are his comments wrong?
     
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    I believe the NFL has stated that K. is not bound by any league or team requirement to stand.

    Given that, his choice needs to be viewed as no more than his choice.
     
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    As I have already stated, current policy for the NFL it is optional, for the NBA it is not they are required to stand.

    So again, If they issue a ruling that says all the players must stand, as in the NBA, then either he stands or they can sanction him, there is no "free speech" which he can claim.
     
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    Ya and isn't it interesting he said..."I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color,"

    Hey Colin....Look around you...You're a QUARTERBACK for an NFL team!!!! Some 'oppression' huh?
     
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    He can play football in Canada.
     
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    Every one of us in the USA has a right to object to wrongs that are being perpetrated.

    Your idea that he shouldn't do so because he was paid is just plain disgusting.

    One does not need to be a member of the class to promote equality for that class. In fact, a good argument can be made that the winners in America have a moral responsibility pertaining to equal treatment of those who are being hindered unreasonably.
     
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    You're addressing a very different situation, obviously.

    But, you're doing that in a half baked manner.

    Basketball players (both NBA and WNBA) do protest social issues, including in ways that break team and league rules. And, in recent cases the specified fines have not been enforced.

    Maybe you should stick to the topic of the thread.
     
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    Oh Jesus Christ almighty.
     
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    Doesn't exist ;)
     
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    Fans Burn Jerseys After NFL's Kaepernick Refuses to Stand For National Anthem.....

    Biracial NFL quarterback Colin Kaepernick, who was adopted and raised by white parents, is refusing to stand for the national anthem as a protest of oppression in America.

    Fans aren't happy about his behavior or attitude and burned his jersey over the weekend, sending the message: If you don't love America, get out.

    Kaepernik is worth $110 million and grew up in Wisconsin.....snip~

    http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiep...refuses-to-stand-for-national-anthem-n2211460

    He keeps this up he wont be upping those numbers, huh?
     
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    Last I heard if they cut him they will owe him $60M
     
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    I doubt this flat-brimmed poser could cut it in the CFL either
     

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