Communist Revolution in Greece?

It is all related. They are not selling only infrastructure, they are selling all the wellfare state. And they don't like that. Protests is about all that.

In Spain, the protests have the same origin, the neoliberal policies. Privatization of healthcare, education, ...

 

The point is that none of this privatisation nonsense will do anything but increase the national debt. It is an entirely pointless bit of class war.

 

That's because China is moving AWAY from the communist model and towards a more market-oriented economic paradigm. But if you think they're doing so well, feel free to move there.

They own our worthless debt.

 

Yes. History is replete with examples of the irrationality and amorality of mobs. Direct democracy has always resulted in social disintegration because of this.

Democracies never last long. They are unstable forms of government that are characterized by the arbitrary and capricious violation of the minority's rights by the majority mob.

 

It would not surprise me in the least, SiliconMagician.

Here is the obvious direction Greece is heading after a violent communist revolution!



"Socialists cry "Power to the people", and raise the clenched fist as they say it. We all know what they really mean — power over people, power to the State."

-- Margaret Thatcher

Socialism is great if you are willing to accept a much reduced standard of living and an oppressive central government who is always telling you what to do and how to live your life to the benefit of the state!

Cuba, North Korea and the old Soviet Union are three perfect examples!

 

Sorry I don't speak the language.

 

Yeah for example Sweeden, or the town of Finland, or some towns in Spain that are governed in direct democracy and don't work, yeah

NOnsense.

Democracy is the best system. It is the only system where people will enjoy freedom, and there isn't any violation of minority's rights. You have more violations in dictatorship system or authoritarian systems than in democratic systems. Then people that hate democracy leave to say nonsense. If you don't like that people can decide, tell it clearly. But don't base in things that are based in the ignorance of how works the democracy.

And if the democracy fails at least is by the failing of the people, and not of a minority. For me is much worse a minority decides than all the people.

What is worse for you, that for example the actual government of USA bans the homosexual marriage. Discrimination of minority from a minority.

Or that in a popular assembly where everybody participated the discrimination is done. Both things are worse, and one is less probable to succeed than in the other case, guess which one.

3...2...1...Yeap, in the second case is less probable than in the first case.

 

Do you know that Cuba there isn't no person that have to search food in the garbages? Do you know that in captilism it is the usual? Then leave to say nonsense.

And second we are talking about another model. And leave to quote that authoritarian neoliberal that is Margaret Thatcher. Yes she hate communism, because she is the natural enemy to his ideology, the most destructive. We have to see what neoliberalism did in Chile, Argentina, Brasil, Haiti, Honduras,... All these countries are victims of the neoliberalism, the ideology of THatcher, Friedman(school of Chicago), Hayek(Austrian School), Reagan... and all that neoliberals that took to the ruin a country.

Greece is suffering the same, and it is seeing how the debt is being increased thanks to the neoliberalism, like in Chile and the rest of countries that applied the economic theory of Thatcher.

Neoliberalism is more poverty, is more people like the one in the picture.More inequality.

 

Most people love and wish for freedom. But there are some people in this world who have never known freedom and prefer the certainties of this world, even if it means supressing their innermost thoughts and hiding behind a burka.

But the modern world with its thirst for openess ,is making it difficult for those despicable tyrants who wish to impose their will on others,no matter the cost eg Syria,Iran etc.

 

Greece is getting what it deserves for its years of outrageus, extravagant public expenditure. Expenditure that allows a Public servant to retire on a full pension at a realtively early age. And who has ever heard of a public servant that actually works? Greeks are renowed for their unwillingness to pay their taxes, but they don't mind putting out their grubby hands out when they retire.

They have sucked the public teat dry, and now they must pay the price!

 

Maybe the Greeks have some fault, but the problem is that there are cuts without having to cut in the wellfare system, that it is what they do. There is the problem.

And they only will get more poorness, with the measures proposed they won't recover, is most they will fall even more.

 

The Greeks have to be weaned off the Welfare Teat, get of their collective posteriors, and start really working for a living. The rest of the EU does not owe them a living.

Thye can't live off the memories of the distant past forever,.

 

Greece's problem is how ridiculously corrupt its government is. To give you an example - Greece has free healthcare as the majority of European countries do. However, you still have to pay for it; mainly because most doctors won't treat you without a bribe.

 

Greece is going to default.

All the Eurozone bailouts will do is delay the inevitable.

The knockon effects of Greece defaulting on its debts is what is troubling, with economies in Spain, Portugal, Ireland and Italy all very fragile. And if they go down, then Europe is in serious trouble, with Europe in trouble the USA will be in trouble etc.

Modern capitalism as we know it may be on its deathbed, time will tell.

 

The European Union, the sick man of the world. And it has the cheek, amongst others on this site, to criticise the USA for its profligacy!

 

Nope, Papandreou survived the vote and austerity measures are underway.

 

It is a problem like in Spain. The corruption is terrible. Do you know the case of Camps and Valencia?

 

In Greece, as in Spain, the equivalent of the American Republicans won a civil war, so corruption is endemic. Obvious, really.

 

Greece will not survive its austerity measures, it does not have enough money to pay back all of its debts.

While it may survive in the very short term, it is not going to last for long.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/ac468dee-9c35-11e0-acbc-00144feabdc0.html#axzz1Q0UNrkua

edit: The only way for Greece to not default is if it gets huge amounts of money pumped into it without having to pay this back or at miniscule interest rates. I don't see this happening, it's political suicide for any leader to agree to this, even if it's the best way to save the current form of capitalism within Europe.

 

The fact that the "current form of capitalism"(Capitalism in name only) in Europe needs saving shows just how wrong it is.

 

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