Compare Israel To Hamas

Israel, in the fog of war accidentally killed 7 aid workers with an air strike in Gaza. They have taken responsibility for the killings and fired two senior officers. Biden is huffing and puffing at Netanyahu because of the accident, the MSM is reporting the story 24/7, and others are condemning Israel and demanding they stop the attack on Hamas. I don't remember that much condemnation when Hamas slaughtered 1,200 Israelis and are still holding hostages. The few hostages who were released told stories of beatings and sexual assault while in Hamas hands. We must remember Israel didn't start the skirmish and are not the bad guys.

 

Muslims have slaughtered people around he world for decades, Jews, not so much. The thing about the left is if you speak up about the Muslims the left will slap a label you. If you bash the Jews the left will nod in approval.

I have no idea where the left's hatred of Jews came from, but I do know the left's adoration of Muslims began after 911 when democrats saw them as a voting block and sought to protect them from the backlash.

In reality, many of the issues liberals push for would get them imprisoned or killed in Muslim countries. Go figure.

 

No fog existed at the time Israel murdered the WCK workers. The kinetic bombs fired at the WCK vehicles were not accidents. They were premeditated, approved and occurred over a period of time.

They have acknowledged the bombs were Israeli. Israel has not taken responsibility. Israel still blames Hamas for the attack. Although, that is a step up from many here on the forum who blame the WCK workers. If I murdered 7 people and, as a result, got fired from my job, do you think that would be an appropriate punishment?

Biden must have over-exerted himself kissing Net's feet and licking the soles of Net's shoes clean. Biden approved billions in arms the exact same day as the attack.

https://www.foxnews.com/
Doesn't exist on Fox.
https://www.msnbc.com/
Nothing there - top news is Stormy Daniels . . . slow news day?
https://www.cbsnews.com/
CBS mentions it at the very bottom of the page. Wow!
https://abcnews.go.com/
Not there.

Do you mean 24 seconds every 7 days?

Almost everyone except Israel and the U.S. has been demanding an Israel stop its slaughter. This ain't new.

https://news.un.org/en/story/2023/12/1144717

Really? Ok . . .

few = 109. Did you really not know the number?

There have been no beatings or sexual assault by Hamas on the prisoners although I'm sure it was not a pleasant experience.

Israel has been continuing the ethnic cleansing for well over 75 years.

 

You do realize most Israelis are atheist right? And if you just add Stalin, Pol Pot, and Mao, you've got far more than the "Muslims" ever did.

You do realize that Israel is very, very far left? Right?

And have you even tried to count the number of times antisemite has been used on this forum?

Have you ever tried to read a book? Let's see here.

And then there is Das Capital - also known as The Jew.

So, W was a Democrat according to you . . .

Liberals and leftists are not the same.

Liberals end up dead if they try to push for their issues in Israel.

 

Muslims have been slaughtering people for centuries, the folks you mentioned fall far below the murders committed in the name of Islam.

No, W was not a democrat. I don't see you around here very much, so you might not know my ex fiance works for the democrat party of California, and she told me that when they saw Muslims taking heat after 911, they viewed it as an opportunity to gain a new voting block. I'm sure you recall how democrats rushed to the aid of Muslims if anyone slighted them. The DNC brainwashed leftists into defending a violent and barbaric culture just like they brainwashed leftists to hate Trump when his political philosophy was largely unknown at the time - the left even thought he was a liberal. He just put an R next to his name and the DNC's hate machine went to work.

 

You're welcome to back up your false statement by providing an itemized list.

I really don't care about your personal life as since this is an anonymous forum, none of it is able to be corroborated. So, whenever I see someone talk about their personal life to try to prove a point, it just shows they have no evidence.

Democrats try to win by gaining all the minorities and promising them stuff.

W went out of his way to court the Muslims.

As did Republicans.

This did not change until Trump.

The DNC, .

A large number of people from many backgrounds opposed Trump - mostly conservative Democrats and Republicans. I don't think you know what left or liberal is.

 

here's some history about islamic savagery.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_and_violence

Regarding my personal life, it's true that I once lived with and was engaged to a woman who now works for the democrat party of CA. She's a HUGE Sanders supporter who goes on rants every time someone mentions how the dNC screwed him. She's also an insane environmental nut, and I mean she's bad. What pisses her off is how she cares so much about the environment, yet she sees the political scam of what's currently going on along with people profiteering off of false claims about the planet dying and other things. And no, she doesn't drive an electric car, instead she drives a Mini Cooper after driving BMWs for a long time. She said Biden cancelling pipelines is stupid because now that oil travels through cities and towns via trains and trucks with do pollute, a pipeline does not.

Here's something about her you might be interested in. She works in media relations which pretty much means she works with candidates to get their messages out. Her office has been told to tell candidates not to mention Biden or how they align with him because Biden is just too unpopular. They're told to tell candidates to attack Trump and only attack Trump when dicussing the presidential candidates.

 

There was near universal condemnation of those attacks by Hamas. There was substantial bipartisan support for the Israeli effort to drive Hamas from power. So much so that Biden made a big mistake and publicly promised Bibi a lot of unconditional military aide, that he and his military did not need, and should never get. Something wierd happened in the ensuing months to all that support, that I sure saw coming down the pike. Netanyahu is nothing but predictable in his historic utter distain for Palestinian civilians and their lives. I was disappointed that Biden did not.

We need to save those tax dollars. All we will get by helping Israel with its effort to annex these lands at all costs, is a lot more enemies, and a moral and human rights black eye that will take generations to heal. Our interests are not served by sending one of the best militaries on the planet more of what they don't need, to kill more babies, and starve more parents and grandparents a little more efficiently than they already are.

 

HAMAS will be dancing in the streets.
They now have brandon negotiating a cease fire and threatening to cut funding for Israel.

No more bad press over 1200 innocent civilians brutally slaughtered, no more need to keep 100 hostages, and an opportunity to regroup and then continue their holy mission to destroy Israel and the west.

 

So, you got nothing.

 

Don't forget the hostages? They were kidnapped and are being held by savages.

 

Israel doesn't seem to care.

 

It's interesting that most of the criticisms of Israel are based on reports from HAMAS or the Palestinian authority (also HAMAS).
The few reports from the UN and "independent" media reports are also pretty much all based on reports from HAMAS or the Palestinian authority.

This is war for Israel and HAMAS. A war to the end. Unless the US or other countries intervene either Israel or HAMAS will be destroyed. The operative term here is WAR. War is an ugly, dirty, smelly business where people die and stuff gets broken.

 

False

False

Do you call the Holocaust a war? That’s a new form of Holocaust denial.

It’s not a war, it’s a genocide.

 

Unfortunately, mistakes like this happen in war. We too had incidents similar to this one in our two wars against Iraq and the one in Afghanistan.

 

So true!!! In the fog of war the good guys sometimes suffer from friendly fire. In WW2 two of our US Navy submarines were sunk by our friendly fire, one by depth charging and one by an airplane.

 

Unfortunately, this mistake couldn't have been made at a worse time for Israel. But at least they owned up to it and formally apologized. Have we gotten an apology from Hamas yet for their massacre?

 

For starters, Hamas has taken a vow to rid the area of all Jews and wipe Israel off the face of the earth. Israel has vowed to defend itself and its people.

 

No apology. And has Hamas released the hostages yet?

 

I thought the IDF was known for their ability to ferret out terrorists from the civilian population? WTF happened to that IDF? Under Netanyahu that skill seems to have disappeared in this conflict.

 

You're entitled to your opinion. You're entitled to disagree.
You are not entitled to only facts that fit your narrative.

The WAR between HAMAS and Israel is indeed a war the the death. Your diversion attempt bringing up the holocaust fails.

You can call it a pink bunny if it suits you. It is in fact a war.

 

Bribed Joe slaughtered an innocent family during the Afghan bug out. Obama/Biden slaughtered a Colorado Teen-ager in a drone attack.

What we saw from the Left after the deadliest day for Jews since the Holocaust is shocking.

'A global movement sympathetic to Hamas is fighting an information war with the objective of isolating Israel diplomatically and undermining its right to exist. We have learned that the United States, our universities, and our social-media platforms are fronts in this campaign. And we have learned that antisemitism has returned with shocking power to demonize, harass, intimidate, and assault Jews throughout the Diaspora. What Jewish immigrants to America in the beginning of the 20th century called the “Golden Land” is no exception.'

We on the Right have been subject to the coordinating disinformation campaigns by these evil vile liars, but I think that the Jewish People, who vote Dem overwhelmingly, probably D+50 have to be completely shocked. Catholics, who have always leaned Left were similarly shocked when Dirtbag Merrick and the FBI accidentally revealed that they were spying on Catholic Churches.

Heroes Don't Always Wear Capes, Sometimes They Wear Hoodies.

'The political heroes of this moment are the men and women who have retained the ability to make clear distinctions between Israel and Hamas, between freedom, equality, and the rule of law and violence, terror, and fear. Few have put the matter as plainly as Senator John Fetterman of Pennsylvania, a Democrat who recently has been making more sense than most of his colleagues. “Hamas is confident we’re going to capitulate—but it’s never going to be me,” he posted Wednesday on X. “Hamas only deserves elimination.”'

The morally upright do not favorably compare Hamas to Israel.

'Alluding to the World Central Kitchen deaths, Fetterman continued, “This war is the sum total of daily, raw tragedies. The vast majority of the harshest criticism & all responsibility for this war belongs to Hamas. Stand with Israel.”'

'Fetterman’s message deserves a million retweets. And his story contains a lesson. Last December, Fetterman dropped his identification as a “progressive” because he understood that the label has become entangled with the poisonous vines of anti-Zionism and antisemitism. And he, unlike Biden, refuses to play the anti-Israel lobby’s game. He, unlike Biden, has drawn the correct lessons from the war in Gaza. John Fetterman knows that good friends come from unlikely places. That the truth is the most effective weapon in the war of ideas. And that the fate of our society, our nation, and our civilization depends on Israeli victory.'

 

Great point. I would like to see a study on what percentage of those calling for a truce were outspoken about the rape and murder by Hamas on October 7th! Biden does what he does to please his handlers and to hold power.

 

But Israel seems to be ignoring the hostages.