Compare Israel To Hamas

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  1. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It seems like those calling for a ceasefire are the ones ignoring the hostages. Pressure on Hamas is the only hope of delivering hostages.
     
  2. Cybred

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    Sorry but using bombs and missiles is not a good way to find hostages.
     
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    Do you not see any connection between Israeli militants expanding into what had been Palestinian farms and homes last summer exiling over 3000 and the Hamas reaction?
    Does Palestine have a standing army? No, it can't, Israel does not permit it. One should not be surprised that an underground Hamas exists.
    Can an underground army be defeated? In only one way. It needs to be no longer desired by the people it supports. Netanyahu is apparently of the position that if there is enough misery the Palestinians will reject rather than support Hamas. I disagree, as long as he keeps this up Hamas will grow leaving, ironically, genocide by Israeli as the results.

    There is a solution. Fixed borders that neither sides army may cross.
    Make Jerusalem a city Nation neither Israeli nor Palestinian. I think this is key. It should not belong to either side nor the Christians there. Given it's independence it will become the greatest religious tourist spot in the world.
     
  4. Bob Newhart

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    You're insisting I use the fiction Zionists are peddling?

    No I'll keep to the true facts.
    Which nation are you imagining Israel at war with?
    False.
     
  5. yabberefugee

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    It sure as hell is a good way to break down their defenses and get them to stop the charade! Hamas uses hostages as a shield. If they think there is a way out via a propaganda war, they'll use it. I would say do not give them an inch. Assure them their fate if they resist. Biden is relenting for political purpose aiding Hamas. The Palestinians have not been any help in ending this.
     
  6. Cybred

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    Find and rescue the hostages then do that
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Who started this?
    Who elected Hamas as their governing body?
    Who is holding hostages including Americans?
    Who is allowing Hamas to hide among their citizens including in hospitals?
     
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  8. Shutcie

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    Not a war?
    Okey Doke.
    war
    [wôr]
    noun​
    1. a state of armed conflict between different nations or states or different groups within a nation or state:
    Pretty sure you can call it whatever you want if that pleases you. The rest of the world is calling this a war.
    Well, except for the HAMAS propaganda machine and the media who support their propaganda. They call it "genocide" and war crimes and what not.
    That tells me two things;
    First that they are losing. Badly.
    Second, that they know what they did last October was crimes against humanity and war crimes.
    Israel is doing what they need to do to defend their security.
    It is armed conflict, you know, where people kill people and break things.
     
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  9. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    To do on the ground warfare, Israel's risk of life as an offensive unit would be at least two to one. Theyve already lost several hundred. Do you think Israel owes it to this population to put Israeli lives at risk after what they did on Oct. 7th? Guess you just don't understand war. I believe it would be the duty of any civilized population to turn against a terrorist organization that takes hostages, and murders civilian population. Gaza did not do that. In fact the civilian population permits themselves to be used as a shield otherwise they would work with Israel to exterminate Hamas. You, Cybred, are among those who work in conjunction with the Hamas plan for taking hostages in the first place I'm sorry to say!
     
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    Bribed Joe's Dangerous Two-Faced Approach With Israel

    Bribed Joe is a foreign policy disaster, though great for the war industry.

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    How can I really screw the Jews?

    He's 'appeasing angry members of the Democrats’ far-left wing, many of whom are antisemites who believe Israel has no right to exist.'

    Bribed Joe's 'talk of a two-state solution isn’t really about Israel and a Palestinian state — it’s about appealing to Muslim-American voters in Michigan and Minnesota!'

    'with each passing day, it becomes more and more obvious that, as Biden’s re-election campaign falters, his administration’s criticism of Israel grows more desperate and strident.'

    'Amid polls showing Donald Trump beating the president in most battleground states, including Michigan, the White House tone has shifted sharply against our ally.'

    Why should anyone who took in $Millions in bribes would have an ounce of integrity.
     
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    So you don't care about the hostages. Got it.
     
  12. yabberefugee

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    Hamas certainly doesn't and apparently neither do you. Remember, it is Hamas that is holding them. Can you say Hamas?

    Apparently you don't give a crap about the lives of Israeli soldiers either!
     
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    What part of rescue the hostages then bomb gaza don't you understand?
     
  14. yabberefugee

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    What part of invading tunnels in an offensive operation sacrificing hundreds of Israeli soldiers lives don't you understand? The hostage will only be partially given up if it is to the Hamas advantage. Perhaps you and a "Jacked up Joe" would volunteer to invade those tunnels and rescue hostages! Hamas has no compassion and would blow up those hostages anyway.
     
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    Like I said, you don't care about the hostages.
     
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    I will employ your logic.You don't care about women and children in Israel either. In fact, you probably relish the idea Hamas will be around to pillage and rape them in the future. What is your idea to free the hostages?
     
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    Hostage for hostage, of course
     
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    Talking about compassion, where was it when Israelis killed 50,000 palestinian civilians?
     
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    I'd imagine many pro Israelis wouldn't give a crap about Israel either if it weren't a white european colony.:machinegun: :unclesam:

    In fact, if Israel were discovered to be a black civilization I'm positive that all our resident "pro Israelis" would all of a sudden become pro hamas!

    but y'all think y'all smart, right?

    Now tell me, who is the real intellectual here.
     
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    Compare Israel to Hamas.

    1. Israel = atheist
    Hamas = God-fearing

    2. Israel = Leftist
    Hamas = support for individual rights.

    3. Israel = Murders 40% children.
    Hamas = Kills 3% children.

    4. Israel = bombs embassies, hospitals, churches, museums, schools, nurseries, etc.
    Hamas = bombs Israeli military vehicles.

    5. Israel = Apartheid.
    Hamas = lives peacefully with the Christians.

    6. Israel = Colonial invaders.
    Hamas = Native.

    7. Hebrew = Fake language.
    Arabic = real language spoken by multiple countries with multiple dialects.

    8. Israel = one million hostages.
    Hamas = a couple hundred prisoners.

    9. Israel = tortures its hostages.
    Hamas = tries to provide the best care it can to hostages.

    10. Israel = murders foreign aid workers.
    Hamas = allows foreign aid.

    11. Israel = uses human shields.
    Hamas = does not use human shields.
     
  21. yabberefugee

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    with the Israeli's who were raped and viciously murdered to fulfill the lusts of Hamas who were allowed to operate in full sight of the Palestinian civilians.
     
  22. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What a load of crap!
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No ......in the last trade we gave at least 10 to one. That's how much more Israel values their lives.
     
  24. Cybred

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    No I don't.
     
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    Where are you getting your figure?

    The Palestinian authority?
     

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