Congratulations, Ron DeSantis. Great Job [rolling eyes]. Moron.

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  1. dagosa

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    Scuba gear is even better. Why don’t you recommend that. How about a space suit ?
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    So paragraphs of fallacy from you. Now—again—evidence from me.

    As you can see, I presented actual evidence from a study conducted by Yale, Stanford, and UC Berkeley. You carry on about all kinds of strawman arguments, ad hominem fallacy, and false accusations without proof. Now please present some evidence—no more unsubstantiated opinions.
     
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    Show your study showing scuba gear is better. LOL. You are full of unsubstantiated opinions.
     
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    I gave you access to it. I even instructed you how to find it. Do you want it read to you ? It’s called foot noting.
     
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    I made up footnotes ? Seriously ? They are invaluable and you don’t read them. Your arguments are evidence free. Anyone who claims they are smarter then the cdc and JHU in normal times would be in the funny farm.
     
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    Just stop talking about irrelevant footnotes and post a study! LOL. Oh yeh, you can’t because no such study exists.
     
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    Nope. You are. I just quote the cdc. They provide access to their research. I have no responsibility to you to provide proof of what the cdc says. They do and They speak for themselves. Seriously, do you need help with footnotes ?
     
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    Ha ha
    This is getting more hilarious by the moment. Surgical masks are not respirators. You gave up on the n95 and gone to a mask that’s more in line with double layer cloth masks.

    So, what are you trying to say now. I can’t follow your reasoning. Did you finally give up on the n95 ?
     
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    That’s Strange dude. Footnotes provide access to studies. You’re calling footnotes irrelevant ? Your goal is to just argue, not to seek the evidence. It’s not my job to speak for the cdc. They do it themselves with their footnotes giving you access to their studies . I find them very helpful. Of course, I believe in science.
     
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    One study proves nothing…repeat, nothing. Footnotes give you access to a series of studies under varying conditions which science can use to make inferences based upon probability and ultimately recommendations. Really, your world of absolutes based upon one study is not only not real science, it’s self incrimination. .
     
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    None of your footnotes are evidence cloth masks are superior IN ANY WAY to N95 quality masks. You know this. That’s why you won’t post an actual study.

    My position is based on many studies which I have presented to you. You are a science denier because there is no study or any other evidence to support your position. The CDC opinion is not evidence. The CDC opinion is not based on empirical evidence. If it was you could provide that evidence. You can’t.

    When you can produce any study or other evidence cloth masks are as good or better than N95 or equivalent masks you can provide it and I will respond. Until then, your posts are unsubstantiated opinion and will not be taken seriously by anyone.

    Take care. My offer of links to affordable domestically produced N95 masks remains open when and if you accept science.
     
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    Don’t your breath. It’s the cdc s job to show access to studies that back their recommendations….NOT MINE. Obviously, you’re the science denier. The cdc provides access to their evidence. Use it.
     
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    Well, you’ll have to get off your butt and use the footnote. If you knew science, you’d know that studies show nothing more then tendencies. It’s the cdc that makes recommendations, not the study.
     
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    Woo woo.
     
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    That’s because you’re not even going to the studies they direct you to. You’ll have to get off your asteroid and do it. But don’t sit there and say the cdc doesn’t produce evidence It’s there for you to see for anyone who knows how to read a number and click on a key.
     
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    Start here…the cdc website.
     
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    Anyone who thinks footnotes are irrelevant when it comes to medical research is out of touch with realty.
     
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    What’s hilarious too is, even hospitals and doctors offices don’t routinely require out patients coming in for treatment wear an n95 mask. It n95 masks were so superior to non respirator cloth masks, why is nearly everyone in public , not wearing them ?
     
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    There are many ways they aren’t superior. They inhibit breathing more. Need to be fit properly. Need replacement when wet from bodily fluids. Cost much more. They’re much harder to maintain….

    There are five ways. If all the public had was this as an option, there would by observation, practically no one wearing a mask of any kind. Go into any hospital and businesses and you’ll find the vast majority of visitors and patients and customers wearing what ? None respirator masks. Now you want to conflate the issue and introduce surgical or medical masks. Guess what. They aren’t respirators. They are manufactured versions of masks you’re arguing against.
     
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    Hospitalizations in Florida are down -69% in the past 6 weeks without any change in statewide policy, no new mask mandate, open schools & no vaccine passports.

    Amazing how the decline is always ignored unless the media can attribute it to policy interventions they want to promote.
     
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    Hospitalizations dropped because people on their own got vaccinated and wore masks as mandated by LOCAL businesses and govs. The state shirked its duties. 90% of the deaths were preventable. So, thousands die just for what ? “Freedom”.
     
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    Bwahahaha! Sure. Now the northern states are having their spikes.
     
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    LOL, someone here is saying that cloth masks are just as good as N95s??? Who is saying so? (I'm curious but my Ignore list doesn't allow me to see who is spouting such absurdity!)
     
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    Seriously ? It’s not even close as a percent of the population. Secondly, the entire north is NOT liberal or democratic. There are areas dominated by anti science views that keep large % of people from masking and vaccinating . These areas have large numbers of unvaccinated people crowding the hospitals. Just keep remembering that. It’s businesses that are saying, don’t come to work unless you mask or be vaccinated. Death is bad for business.
     
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    He’s making up his own story line. Obviously, n95 masks filter better then surgical, medical and cloth masks. But he ignores why in the general public, they aren’t recommended. N95 are respirators that can serve two purposes. One is unnecessary in public settings when people are vaccinated and observe other rules. It’s pretty obvious. Count the number of people who wear n95 masks in public.
     
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