Cops assualt 70 pound girl for refusal to give up cellphone

Disruption in class is not a arresable offense, not even in Texas. If the teacher had a problem with the student, the student can be sent to the principal's office., If the student refuses, then the principal is called, along with the parents. Yes, the call will be disrupted for one period, but that is all.

The officer's had no legal authority to take the phone. By demanding the phone, that is stealing under Texas law. There was no probable cause to take property, aka the phone, which a crime occurred because there was no crime.

This was a complete overreaction by the principlal and the only question is was it done intentionally or was is done in complete incompetence.

At best, all the cops can do is to talk to her, the teacher, and the principal. That is it.

Houston ISD policy handbook

 

Unless you were there, you don't know what happened because everybody is telling their version of the events.

 

The links you provided are not congruent to the OP article at all nor to the specific situation at the school involving the student talking on the cell phone in class.

 

It's quite clear that cops over in that area are simple cowards apparently.

I'll make sure and tell parents that taking your kid to the ground and kneeling on their head is perfectly acceptable procedure when they don't wanna give up a cell phone lol.

Can't wait to see how many crazy looks I get.

 

Didn't beating his kid with a switch get a NFL player arrested and fired?

 

She only became "belligerent" when the phone was being taken from her. Up to that point all she was doing was talking; not in a classroom, but in a corridor, and as you see in the video nothing was being disrupted. The incompetent authorities were clearly at a complete loss as to how handle a simple school rule infraction-and we saw the result.
They're going to be answering some very uncomfortable questions.

 

You really want to equate refusing to give up a telephone with violence? And you call me absurd?

 

The legality of the police action must be extremely dubious because no offence against the law was involved. The police action was an assault. It is also likely the schools own actions and policies are dubious in regard to legality.

 

"She says her reading teacher caught her using her cell phone in class, which is against school rules, and told her to go to the hallway. That's where Perez says she was confronted by an assistant principal who demanded she relinquish the phone. Students caught using phones in class are required to turn them over to school administrators and then retrieve them at the end of the school day, for a fee."

Proof positive you didnt even bother to read the thread...

 

Haters and other types usual suspects don't have to read the material they so loathe. If by cursory glance they see the words; 'Christian', 'good USA' ,etc etc the hand goes on auto pilot and end up here on PFs pages.....I think putting someone on 'group ignore' is the mark of a coward and a bigot so I would not suggest putting anyone on ignore, however if a reply etc is obvious hate mail I just skip that one.

reva

 

Our beloved diversity is the main reason for that. And most schools don't have cops patrolling. It's a single police officer doing what a principle or teachers used to do.

 

You mean by allowing Hispanic-Americans in public schools?

 

No we know what happened but funny how you claim we don't then proceed to state how the police were in the wrong.

 

The links to the UK violence in schools, it was in response to on of the foreigners here showing their arrogance.

 

No that is just a specious ad hominem.

 

Yes as school rules require her to turn over.

It started in the classroom as a disruption moves to the hallway.

What dont you understand "yes ma'am" was all that was necessary. Once she refused and started ratchetting it up she brought the arrest and take down on herself.

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Went right over your head?

 

The assistant principal had no authority to take the cell phone away from the student under Houston ISD policy handbook.

Yes, the student was disruptive in class when she was talking. But the assistant principal should have called the parents in this displinary case. The complete overreaction by the principal is what in question here.

 

Reading articles on the internet does not equate to knowing exactly what happened. We have some facts, but not all the facts.

For instance, if you rad the handbook on disruptive students, it is quite clear what the responsibilities and methods that are required to be usd if the student refuses to comply. If you look at the duties and responsibilities of the school ppolice officers, you would also know what they can and cannot do. In essence, none of the articles on the internet go that deep into what happened.

 

Ms. Perez is not a foreigner. In fact, the Daily Caller article does not even mention immigration status. Thus, we assume she is a U.S. citizen for now until other evidence is available, if at all.

That being said, this is the problem with white nationalists as yourself. When it comes to any other race or ethnicity, you first think she is a foreigner first and an American second. This is why the Tea Parry will never have a serous candidate for President, much less be elected.

 

I have read them and they have been posted and yes they can take students into custody if they refuse to comply with their lawful, which they were, orders. The student and parents also signed the agreement with the school as to disciplinary action.

It's REAL SIMPLE. "Yes Ma'am, I'm putting my phone away now"

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"here" as in THIS FORUM.

 

Not exactly. The day to day most dangerous schools are those in poorer areas. I drop my kids off every morning. No army of cops. Then again, their school isn't in the hood. There is a cop, but he's usually sitting in the lobby chatting with parents. The nicer areas have less to worry about because the gangs in the suburbs are more laughable than scary=)

 

yup, yet a cop is allowed to throw a little bitty girl to the ground and kneel on her head. Funny how that works. Then if a cop gets out of line and you defend yourself you are carried off to jail for assault on a police officer and whatever else they please to charge you with .

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Curious as to why you didnt challenge the rest of the post brother, was it too much hypocrisy on the side of the law for you?

 

Oh please document this..

Are you suggesting at no time did the school attempt to call the parents? Did it cross your mind that she was on the phone with the mother which is what started this?

 

I have already provided the Housin ISD polcy handbook online in a prior post, but here is the PDF version though.

Look at the different levels of intervention to which the school or district can use on any displanary issue of the student.

Yes, the policy does state that the student is required to hand over the phone to school officials; however, if the student refuses to give up the phone, then the assistant principal has several options in which to resolve the situation. If you look at the different levels of intervention, you can see that this was a level one

What the assistant principal did was in violation of that student policy handbook because the 15 year old was treated more like a criminal than a student. The talking on the cell phone in class was a disciplinary issue, not a criminal issue at all.

And because of this, this is hwy Tea Party will never had a president in the WH at all.

 

YOu and I must be reading different polcy handbooks. The ony way a police officer in HISD can take into custody a student is either a criminal act has taken place and that student is a suspect in that act while on school property, or the student is either a danger to themselves or to other students. The situation did not warrant either situation in which the police officer can arrest or detain a student.

Yes, it does say, as part of student responsibilities, to be respectful to both personal and school property, but I have a feeling you did not read very far into the pocly handbook.

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