Cops assualt 70 pound girl for refusal to give up cellphone

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  1. RP12

    RP12 Well-Known Member

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    Umm she refused to comply with police officers.. Your handbook is moot and your flame bait about the Tea Party is noted and laughed at.
     
  2. AboveAlpha

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    Uhh...no.

    If a underage student is sent to the Office and asked to do something like surrender her cell phone and the kids does not then the school calls the parents or relatives of the kid.

    This was attempted many times and the kids Mother was on the phone with the kid and the Mother refused to answer the schools call and the kid even told her Mother the school was trying to get ahold of her.

    At this point the School....BY LAW....must call the Police.

    When the Police get to the school the issue is discussed and as what happened in this case once again they attempted to get ahold of her Mom....and Mom refused to answer and kept talking to the kid who admitted she was talking to Mom but that Mom was on her DEATH BED and that was why the kid refused to give up the phone.

    At that point the Police offered to drive her to whatever Hospital her Mother was at and asked the girl if she had any other relative they...the Police could contact.

    At this point the girl understanding the GIG WAS UP....started screaming and swearing and throwing things at the Cops and Teachers.

    The Cop's told her to give them the phone so they could speak to her Mom....and the girl still refused and continued swearing.

    The Cop's then warned her if she did not immediately hand over her cell phone to them so they could talk to her Mom to come down and get her....they would have no choice but to arrest her.

    The girl refused...swore...threw things....and the Cop's moved forward to arrest her.

    NOW AT THIS POINT....the Cop's had no intention of throwing the girl to the ground and EVEN THEY were a bit surprised when the girl began to physically resist arrest as resisting arrest is probably the most STUPID THING A PERSON CAN DO.

    At that point the Cop's had to follow procedure and bring her down to the ground.

    What the Cop's did was completely justified...legal....and it was the way they were trained to do it and it was the right thing to do.

    Anyone thinking different is in LA LA LAND...because what if you had a Mom or Dad who was a Cop or Teacher and because this girl was not brought down to the ground she grabbed a glass and broke it and hurt someone bad....or what if she poked YOUR COP HUSBANDS EYE OUT WITH A PEN...because proper Police Procedures where not followed????

    AboveAlpha
     
  3. Alwayssa

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    You are regurgitating this from a blog that does not have a reputation for reporting facts.

    For starters, public schools have the phone numbers of the parents of the students in that school. Thus if a student refuses to go to the assistant principals;s officer, they can call.

    Second, there is no public record of any Houston ISD police report of the incident.

    Third, the student was in the hallway when the police officers arrested her in the manner that they did. Thuys what was she going to throw. From the video, you could not see anything in the hallways at all.

    Fourth, the police officers ignored their own policies and procedures of this incident. The refusing of the cell phone was not something the officers are there to arrest or detain. And the assistant principal is the one to blame since it has he wold order them to arrest her in the first place.

    In situations like this, cops know what they are doing, why they are doing it, and to the extant of what they are doing. Intentions have nothing to do with that. And that part is not only a lie, but complete hogwash.
     
  4. Max Rockatansky

    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    All great points, but let's not forget you are conversing to a person who believes in alien abductions and a conspiracy by the US government to conceal alien visitations.
     
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    The police officers in question and the principal are employed by the same employer, Houston ISD. Thus the handbook is relevant.
     
  6. RP12

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    The handbook does not trump anything. They are still Police officers. So no the handbook is not relevant.

    A simple google search would clue you in. for example..

    http://www.click2houston.com/news/h...lockdown-for-police-activity-in-area/28338068

    Houston PD has this school on lockdown. Where is your precious handbook now?
     
  7. Max Rockatansky

    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Which still doesn't give them the excuse to manhandle a child.

    In a police state, all that matters is the gun, not a book.
     
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    The child had ample changes to follow school rules.

    I am well aware of your thoughts on a police state. We have been through this.
     
  9. Max Rockatansky

    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So what? That's the excuse you'd stand by if it was your little girl being shoved into the floor?

    Should she have been disciplined? Yes. Manhandled? No.
     
  10. RP12

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    Disciplined how? She was 100% non compliant.

    Police are not baby sitters. When you call the police for a complaint they do their job.
     
  11. Max Rockatansky

    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Disagreed on your abusive attitude to disciplining children. Smart people know how to both outsmart and properly discipline a non-compliant child. Dumb asses resort to force because they don't know any better.
     
  12. AboveAlpha

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    No Max.

    I do not BELIEVE.

    I KNOW.

    There is a difference.

    Now members who have been here for awhile and have read my posts know I am level headed and know vast amounts of knowledge.

    I am not prone to Conspiracy Theories....and I am a person who KNOWS that NASA landed men on the Moon and the WTC Centers fell because two passenger jetliners full of fuel struck the buildings at 500 mph plus.

    You are doing what other people do when they cannot argue the point from a viable possition of LOGIC.

    Since they can't argue the logic....they attempt to character assasinate the source in a manner that might place questions to the veracity of such a persons logic.

    You have absolutely no logic to your arguement in this topic.

    And you will find attempting to paint me as a Radical Conspiracy Nut...will not hold water with the membership at large.

    AboveAlpha
     

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