Corona Virus Update

Hmmm...

Maybe I should look into what Blood Type that I have.

I can't remember off-hand.

 

Odds are that you're O-positive, which is 38% of the population, then A-positive, which is around 34%.

 

Cool. Thanks.

I have one of those Online Medical Record things, I had a CBC last month.

I will have to check that out. A 72% of either O+ or A+. Cool.

 

Very interesting -- and something that should be looked into carefully. Not going to help me, as I my blood type is A, but it can help better understand why certain otherwise healthy people have fallen ill from the virus and died and why others have shown very mild symptoms instead. Although I personally don't think the blood type will prove to be (by itself) the primary distinction, as I think there is an even smaller subset of the population that is particularly susceptible to become seriously ill from the virus but that subset hasn't been identified yet. I wouldn't even focus only on China to find that subset, as the mortality rate among the 'closed cases' in China (as in South Korea) is very low (less than 5%), while elsewhere (US, Italy, France even to a lesser extent Iran), that mortality rate is quite high.

There has been way too much emphasis on the idea that the virus isn't dangerous to healthy, younger adults, whereas this is not true: while those with compromised immune systems and the elderly are always at greater risk from all sorts of viruses, including even the flu, with regard to Covid-19, in some countries which don't have an old demographic among those who have become ill as a result of the virus, such as Iran or Holland, the virus has shown itself quite capable of making even younger adults get very sick or die. Even as it has not had much of an impact on a lot of other people.

In fact, the experience of Iran with the virus has made 3 things stand out the most:

1- even with the 'best treatment', like the ones that would be given to the highest state officials, or doctors and health care professionals, if for some reason your system has reacted badly to the virus, it can kill you. Many of the prominent officials in Iran who have died from the virus appeared healthy before, even if they were older. On the other hand, in Iran and elsewhere, there are plenty of even very old people (including those with limited means who aren't getting first rate treatment necessarily) who have contracted the virus but who recover. Similarly, in China and in Iran, you have doctors specializing in this field who have been treating patients for the Coronavirus who have contracted the disease and died from it. The 34 year old Chinese doctor who was the first to publicize the spread of the virus in China died from it. A professor immunology and a physician treating Coronovirus patients in Iran died from the virus. We have had young nurses who have died. None of them were previously ill. On the other hand, we have a slew of diabetics, old people, and certainly many younger ones, who have contracted the virus and come out unscathed.

2- the overall mortality rate of the virus is probably low, even if the infection rate is alarmingly high and higher than many which are being assumed. For those individuals who develop symptoms and become ill (whatever percentage of the wider group with the virus), the prognosis isn't all that favorable, especially if you look at the ratio of dead to recovered in places like the US (56% mortality), Italy (46% mortality) or in Spain (33% mortality) or France or even Iran (15% mortality). Finding why some people, regardless of their overall health conditions, are much more susceptible to catching the virus than others, will be very important and simply relying on mass data (skewed heavily by the experience in China) won't be as helpful.

3- The period between which someone is infected by the virus and then recovers from it (or, alternatively, dies) is longer than is being assumed or is being advertised. It is longer than a week or two weeks. Basically, you have many people who have tested positive for the virus for several weeks, and who have been carrying it for much longer, but who haven't yet recovered from it.

 

Las Vegas to issue shut down of all nonessential businesses

 

The virus does not affect the Lower Respiratory track of kids

 

That is completely and utterly WRONG!

3/16 4663 cases
3/17 6411 cases

The rate of infection is still INCREASING EXPONENTALLY!

Do your research BEFORE posting because your credibility is taking some serious hits in this thread. This link will tell you what you need to verify beforehand.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

 

Back on March 10 I did my own Estimations for potential Death Tolls for Covid-19 using the data that was available back then. That was BEFORE Italy locked the entire nation down.

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...-regular-flu-mortality-doing-the-math.569272/

My numbers closely match those of the CDC.

In essence the REAL TIME evidence is now CORROBORATING the original Estimates.

The Math does not lie!

The only FACTORS that can change them are the PRECAUTIONARY MEASURES to prevent the spread of Covid-19. I also mentioned them in my 3/10 estimates.

That is where we are NOW a mere 8 days later!

 

Once again your FAILURE to do any actual RESEARCH is exposed!

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4869076/

This was all sorted out following the Ebola epidemic and is now SOP!

 

It doesn't which is why the FAILURE of the criminal IMPOTUS to implement PREVENTATIVE measures at an earlier point in time is now going to result in a great many more needless deaths.

 

Blaming the President for everything under the sun, while convenient doesn't actually provide any solutions.

 

Neither does your criminal IMPOTUS!

 

Trump was presented with a country whose economy had its engines running in a good shape. It's all a breeze and you got options. But now, this is going to be a crisis... and that's when good leadership is needed. Trump has shown he aint a good one.

He compared it to the flu. Some people still do because of that.
The country is in a freaking state of emergency because of "just a flu".
He fired the pandemic response team... ffs.
He closed the borders... after the infection was already in the US, spreading around.
He does nothing to stop the spreading around.
All other countries are putting up means to control the outbreak as good as possible.


Must be a bummer to support a guy who rather plays golf than work.

 

-He never fired the pandemic response team. All outlets of government have officially called that a lie.
-It's compared to the flu, "not because of Trump", but because it's most associated symptoms(fever, shortness of breath, etc.) resemble..well I'll let you finish this sentence.

-He closed the borders to certain countries almost immediately when the US first learned of it. Remember, he didn't even want the ship back(a correct decision.) Unfortunately, not a "politically correct" decision so we had to take a ship of infected people back.
If anything blame the Chinese for not promptly informing us of its first case that "Hey, something bad's going on here."

-"He does nothing to stop the spreading around", we're living in an enforced quarantine and have since about what, March 9th or 10th? He can't stop this viral DNA from spreading all over the damn place.


-And those other countries suffer either the same or worse rate of cases and deaths. So what, is it all for show?(Yeah, it kind of is actually and I've made that argument recently upon thinking about it.)

We've literally destroyed the economy(at the wishes of those who wanted the President to DO SOMETHING), and in the end it doesn't matter. Only to have people bemoan 'Well, maybe if he committed this financial suicide sooner we might be better off.'

(Note that I call it financial suicide, because nothing that's been done actually...matters when we look at the rates.) We can choose to go on our lives, or we can choose to hole ourselves in and it would appear regardless a 3% rate to this is our reality for the time being.

 

Oh how easily one forgets that it was them Democrats who regularly
used the word " Smart " in relations to virtually every policy they implemented
or tried to.Which we had to learn the hard way was a pile of festering bunk.
Hillary Clinton as a Senator couldn't speak more than few sentences w/o need
of that word " Smart ". And it's these same folk { Democrats in league with their
adjunct,the Mainstream Media } who now merely substitute the word " Experts "
for Smart.The Experts in Government.Like ... let me guess.
John Brennans Intelligence Community.
Or James Clappers.Or James Comey's F.B.I.
Don't Get Stooged

 

That aint true. He did cut the funding of that team, and so people got fired. Hence, he fired people.

Trump compared it to the common flu.
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1237027356314869761

The hospitals are overflowing in Italy and can not cope with the amount of people needing care. And here you got a total idiot in charge claiming... it's just a flu... as if a just a flu does this. Trump made a wrong call. His call that he had "a hunch" that it wouldn't be that bad... days before calling in a state of national emergency... lol. He got no clue. All there is, are people who adore an idiot as if he's some God.

The virus was already in the US. It's like close the door to the chicken farm, a fox is on it's way. And you close the door with the fox already inside. plain stupid.

Trump is not enforcing any quarantine. People get to mingle as the please if it's up to him.

It does matter if you're able to control a disease, even if it's to some extent. Trump doesn't even try. And here you are, but trying to save 4 million Americans is going to cost me some money. Good lord. What a come back.

 

At last check prior to this morning, we have 117 dead Americans. This is the kind of ridiculous crap that's led to these disastrous policies and very little(to nothing) in return for them.

 

Italy is trying it's hardest... and still got almost 350 deaths a day yesterday... a 16% increase.
And their hospitals are full... foreign doctors are flown in, as if it's some 3rd world country hit by Ebola.

As for the US...
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...us-death-toll-increase-since-outbreak-started
Day before yesterday it was 88, with a new record of having 18 people die in single day.
And now you say it's 117. So that's 29 new deaths in a single day. 60% increase, buddy.
There is no vaccine. Trump is not taking any measures to stop the spread unlike Italy.
At the 60% increase rate... it's just a matter of weeks before the madness starts in the US.

Do note. It was a record day before yesterday.
It was a new record yesterday.
That hints the death rate is actually speeding up.
Your argument doesn't take this all into account.
Your viewpoint is like.. this is how it is now, as if it's gone tomorrow.

 

Sorry, missed it.

 

There may be a Movie ... Hopefully :

- Wake Me When the Virus is Over -

 

is it normal to have zero clue what your blood type is? cuz I have no clue

 

The U.S. government's task force is having regular meetings (teleconferences) with state governors, conveying the DHHS/CDC recommendations for shut downs and social distancing. Governors communicate to counties and city mayors.

Most of the U.S. is currently under some sort of restriction because the states/counties/cities are following the national advice and limiting movement.

We were told a week ago to expect a huge spike in cases in the U.S., since we're about to have a flood of test results, and of course that will include a higher body count. We won't know if the actions we are taking today are effective for about a month. The same is true for Italy and every other country who are seeing spikes right now.

 

I have no idea my blood type. I wanted to donate blood decades ago when there was a local need and was told I don't weigh enough.

 

Coming up with an effective vaccine is going to take 18 months so these actions are not going away any time soon.

 

If everyone stayed 6 feet away from everyone else for 2 weeks, the people who are infected could be identified and quarantined and the virus spread would stop in it tracks.

Of course, it's unreasonable to ask 100% of people to keep 6 feet away from others, but if even 25% followed that advice and just stayed home, then we would likely flatten the curve enough for our health care system to handle it. The more people who follow the advice to move about as little as possible, the faster the virus burns out.

Yesterday, Dr. Birx was saying that younger people who are off work because their business temporality closed are going to bars and restaurants instead of staying home. People who are not social distancing because they aren't personally likely to contract a bad case of the virus are the biggest risk to the virus continuing to spread and cycle. That's why the newest CDC advice is for bars to shut down and for restaurants to do takeout and drive-thru service only, no sit down dining.

My city and county implemented that advice in the last couple 48 hours. Yours probably did too if you live in an urban area. It will take several weeks of cases climbing before we see if these measures are effective as will be shown by the peak and decline.