Corona Virus Update

No doubt sound advice.

I do very well in isolation so it isnt a pain at all to me. I used to go on long solo backpacking trips until I became too old and my 2 daughters asked me to stop. I can get sick of other people outside of family far too fast for it to be healthy, perhaps . Cant tolerate the egos of most men. Who are so detached they cannot see just what an ego is thereby taking this illusion far too seriously. Enlightened people understsnd the nature of their ego, their self image and it does not blindly rule over their being.

Hell for me would be having to spend time with trump ! Lol .The second hell would be spending time with one of these modern progressives !Or the modern conservative who believes taxation is theft and the Commons being genuine socialism or communism ! Kinda like calling a dude with a horse sized penis a biological female!

 

Did FL quarantine?

Did FL allow beaches packed with people from all over America?

Did FL promote the importance of voluntary self isolation and press for an ending of large meetings?

 

Most states are calling them Stay in home orders not quarantine so you might want to rephrase that.

Allow? Strange way to phrase it where we have freedom of assembly.. Did Florida discourage it.. Yes.. Did they close beaches... Yes.

And finally ... Yes.... Go back to your marxists sites. You should know the answers to your own questions.

 

I really believe we are not giving NEAR enough recognition to the medical staff who are risking their own lives and experienceing the daily death rate first hand, day in and day out.

We even see retired doctors and nurses, who are clearly in a high risk group, voluntarily join the war zone at all our care facilities.

Whenn our federal and state governments refuse to pull together for America, they are extending a monumental slap in the face to those who are risking their lives in this fight.

This really is no different than telling our troops on the front line that we really just aren't particularly interested in supporting them with the material and equipment they need to stay alive.

Please let your daughter know that there are those of us who thank her deeply and have huge respect for her contribution.

 

No, when people arrive on cruise ships they need to be quarantined. This has NOTHING to do with stay at home direction.

FL left its beaches crowded until the last few days. You can even see maps of where those on the beaches traveled after being on the beaches. That included the whole eastern region. These maps were crated by tracking cell phones that were on just one beach for just a very few days.

I go back to the CDC and other cites where the information comes from experts in pandemic response.

And, MANY states have issued stay at home orders, closed businesses, etc. So, it's not me - you are objecting to the response of the majority of the USA at both the state and federal level.

 

U.S., UK, Netherlands, Australia, Canada, were the most prepared country to handle a pandemic

2019 Global Health Security Index

https://www.ghsindex.org/

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How are they handling it?

U.S.
Index Score.........….83.5
# of Cases...………..336,085
Deaths/1mm pop......29

UK
Index Score...……….77.9
# of Cases...………...47,806
Deaths/1mm pop...…73

Netherlands
Index Score...……….75.6
# of Cases...………...17,851
Deaths/1mm pop...….103

Australia
Index Score......……..75.5
# of Cases...…………5,687
Deaths/1mm pop...….37

Canada
Index Score...………..75.3
# of Cases...………….15,512
Deaths/1mm pop...…..7

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/05 APR

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Well, the "index" includes factors relating to preparedness and risk. European countries are going to have higher risk because they have higher density. Thus, they would have to have better preparedness than would the US or Canada in order to score the same mark according to that scale.

The real major point here is that nobody has been prepared.

Plus, the index doesn't measure what our response actually has been. It is one team's measure of our capacity and our risk. Neither of those mean anything if we don't bring that capacity to bear.

Also, total cases and deaths per capita aren't good measures of adequacy of response. They don't show anything about how or whether any of these countries got their problem under control.

We know for SURE that we haven't gotten our problem under control. Before we start bragging about number comparisons, we need to show we did something.

Also, it has been pointed out that we have very limited testing capacity, and our death count includes only those that have been confirmed. Experts aware of our reporting system say that we're undoubtedly getting a significant undercount. I don't know if that's affecting other countries.

 

The number of infected may be suspect. But I think the number of deaths would be pretty close. And then you could multiply by estimated casualty percentage to see how it works out. I ain't checking the numbers much. Today I was working on my garden. I think the peak of the curve is just after a decrease in New cases is reported. Kinda like a light at the end of the tunnel.

 

U.S., UK, Netherlands, Australia, Canada, were the most prepared country to handle a pandemic

2019 Global Health Security Index

https://www.ghsindex.org/

------------------------

How are they handling it?

U.S.
Index Score.........….83.5
# of Cases...………..336,085
Deaths/1mm pop......29
Density...…………….87/sq mi

UK
Index Score...……….77.9
# of Cases...………...47,806
Deaths/1mm pop...…73
Density...……………..701/sq mi

Netherlands
Index Score...……….75.6
# of Cases...………...17,851
Deaths/1mm pop...….103
Density...……………...1,090/ sq mi

Australia
Index Score......……..75.5
# of Cases...…………5,687
Deaths/1mm pop...….37
Density...……………..8.5/ sq mi

Canada
Index Score...………..75.3
# of Cases...………….15,512
Deaths/1mm pop...…..7
Density...………………10.2/ sq mi

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/05 APR

Next, Covid19 main pre-existing conditions; Obesity, Lung diseases, Heart diseases

 

It’s time to open the country back up !!
On MAY 1st

only places like diseased NYC, LA,SF,NO should be on lock down

 

Adding national average density improves understanding very little as density was already factored into the "index score" in some unknown way.

How to factor in the region from Nebraska to the Cascade/Sierra Nevada range and from Canada to Mexico is not obvious.

The largest factor remains how well we as a nation brought our capacity to bear on the problem.

 

There is no place in this war for surrender monkeys.

Our case growth rate is still exponential. And, larger regions of the US are growing hot.

 

We did attack the biggest problem. People packed in one place breathing on each other. As a country we learned the lesson of social distancing. If it is a bell curve and not a wave.

 

Did you see this on CNN of Fox News Channel?

 

I need to eat !! I am starving to death

 

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U.S., UK, Netherlands, Australia, Canada, were the most prepared country to handle a pandemic

2019 Global Health Security Index

https://www.ghsindex.org/

------------------------

How are they handling it?

U.S.
Index Score.........….83.5
# of Cases...………..336,085
Deaths/1mm pop......29
Density...…………….87/sq mi
Lung Disease, death per 100,000; 32.01
Heart Disease, death per 100,000; 86.89
Obesity Mellitus, death per 100,000; 15.21

UK
Index Score...……….77.9
# of Cases...………...47,806
Deaths/1mm pop...…73
Density...……………..701/sq mi

Lung Disease, death per 100,000; 23.66
Heart Disease, death per 100,000; 57.34
Obesity Mellitus, death per 100,000; 4.69​

Netherlands
Index Score...……….75.6
# of Cases...………...17,851
Deaths/1mm pop...….103
Density...……………...1,090/ sq mi

Lung Disease, death per 100,000; 26.0
Heart Disease, death per 100,000; 52.10
Obesity Mellitus, death per 100,000; 8.35​

Australia
Index Score......……..75.5
# of Cases...…………5,687
Deaths/1mm pop...….37
Density...……………..8.5/ sq mi

Lung Disease, death per 100,000; 18.79
Heart Disease, death per 100,000; 54.11
Obesity Mellitus, death per 100,000; 10.59​

Canada
Index Score...………..75.3
# of Cases...………….15,512
Deaths/1mm pop...…..7
Density...………………10.2/ sq mi

Lung Disease, death per 100,000; 19.01
Heart Disease, death per 100,000; 55.36
Obesity Mellitus, death per 100,000; 10.27

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/05 APR

https://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/leading-causes-of-death-by-country

Next; Preventive measures, and dates

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Multiple sources and the numbers do back it up if you're watching them.

 

Today, many states do NOT have a state stay at home policy. In fact there are states that created new law to PREVENT cities in the state from having such a direction!!!

We've seen people packed on FL beaches. We see the lack of travel restriction policy that allowed people from all over the nation to travel to and from those beaches and congregate in parties on and off the beach.

We've seen the pictures of close quarters dining in TN restaurants and the lists of types of gatherings that are exempt by state policy.

We have a president who said we should wear masks, but he won't!! Plus, he declared a national emergency, yet is still tellig governors to pound sand - something he doesn't do if there is a hurricane. His every action proves there is no national emergency plan.

It's impossible to suggest with a straight face and evidence that we as a nation have learned anything at all.

 

We've been WAY more concerned about getting money to corporations than to indiviuals.

Even the money we DO have for individuals isn't getting there.

This IS a crime. At some point it's going to be an excusable offense to steal frood from grocery stores.

 

U.S., UK, Netherlands, Australia, Canada, were the most prepared country to handle a pandemic

2019 Global Health Security Index

https://www.ghsindex.org/

------------------------

How are they handling it?

U.S.
Index Score.........….83.5
# of Cases...………..336,085
Deaths/1mm pop......29
Density...…………….87/sq mi
Lung Disease, death per 100,000; 32.01
Heart Disease, death per 100,000; 86.89
Obesity Mellitus, death per 100,000; 15.21
First Covid Case; Jan 20
Preventive measures;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_coronavirus_pandemic_in_the_United_States


UK
Index Score...……….77.9
# of Cases...………...47,806
Deaths/1mm pop...…73
Density...……………..701/sq mi
Lung Disease, death per 100,000; 23.66
Heart Disease, death per 100,000; 57.34
Obesity Mellitus, death per 100,000; 4.69
First Covid19; Late January
Test and measures;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_coronavirus_pandemic_in_the_United_Kingdom


Netherlands
Index Score...……….75.6
# of Cases...………...17,851
Deaths/1mm pop...….103
Density...……………...1,090/ sq mi
Lung Disease, death per 100,000; 26.0
Heart Disease, death per 100,000; 52.10
Obesity Mellitus, death per 100,000; 8.35
First Covid case; FEB 27
Preventive measures; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_coronavirus_pandemic_in_the_Netherlands

NOTE: "3rd Most prepared country".....Yeah, right!



Australia
Index Score......……..75.5
# of Cases...…………5,687
Deaths/1mm pop...….37
Density...……………..8.5/ sq mi
Lung Disease, death per 100,000; 18.79
Heart Disease, death per 100,000; 54.11
Obesity Mellitus, death per 100,000; 10.59
First Covid case; 25 JAN
Preventive measures
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_coronavirus_pandemic_in_Australia


Canada
Index Score...………..75.3
# of Cases...………….15,512
Deaths/1mm pop...…..7
Density...………………10.2/ sq mi
Lung Disease, death per 100,000; 19.01
Heart Disease, death per 100,000; 55.36
Obesity Mellitus, death per 100,000; 10.27
First Covid Case; JAN 27
Preventive measures;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_coronavirus_pandemic_in_Canada#Government_response

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/05 APR

https://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/leading-causes-of-death-by-country

 

Sometimes money trumps common sense. This is not a police state. Recommendations are just that. Man doesn't have to change. Survival is not mandatory.... Damming.

 

What's your point?

 

This doesn't help your argument.

Our president, many of our states, right wing media programming, and the rest have presented that no action or very little action is required.

And, that's just plain BS according to the CDC and other experts.

Our case count is STILL growing exponentially. Many of our hospitals are totally overflowing. And we continue to do very little about it.

 

What would you suggest?