Coronavirus now leading cause of death in US

What are you going on about?

 

So they died from the coronavirus. Thanks for acknowledging that is what happens when people ignore isolation advice then you get idiots demanding that restrictions are lifted

 

And Cuomo (pick one...or both) and de Blasio, and the rest of the MSM were saying what?

I know you hate Trump and want nothing more than to see him go away in November - or before if it were possible but Trump, and even the New York Democrats, and even Nancy Pelosi could only go by what they knew at any given time.

They were all dependent on medical "experts" who were misleading them, sometimes intentionally, sometimes because they have agendas, sometimes just out of ignorance from either China or the China Health Organization's lies or sometimes ignorance just because the entire world was still figuring it out.

Are there things that Trump could have done differently had he had more complete information? Sure. Are there things Trump would have done differently if the world had the information then that they have today? Sure.

And this applies to Cuomo and to de Blasio as well.

To blame Trump is just plain stupid. No world leader in the history of world leaders could know what to do in any pandemic, let alone in the earliest days of a pandemic... They are completely dependent on their medical experts.

Even the medical experts are mostly making educated guesses. They don't know what's going to happen either. Take Dr. Fauci, for instance... Please...

Fauci had an agenda. He was determined to protect his empire that he'd carefully built in almost 50 years of government service. I doubt he wanted to see people die but he made choices to downplay potentially helpful medications because the big-government approval rules hadn't been used and his entire life has been in creating and enforcing those rules... He thought his life's work was good work - and some of it was; he defended it even though we know now that we needed a different approach in a fast spreading pandemic.

People made decisions based on what they knew, influenced heavily by their own prejudices or experiences (as almost all decisions are made). As time went on, and more information became available, recommendations changed.

I sure do get tired, though, of people like you pointing fingers at Donald Trump without having had any better ideas of your own at the time, and in fact, criticizing everything he does because you hate the man more than you love the country.

 

There is another section here for crackpot conspiracy theories.

 

I will acknowledge that death is what happens when people ignore good, life-saving, advice. I'll always acknowledge that if the advice changes to going back into public too soon, the deaths will rise again.

But that's not what my post you quoted said at all... It said, in answer to your question about what caused the increase over the past few weeks, that Cuomo's and de Blasio's recommendation NOT to isolate is what caused that SPECIFIC increase in deaths. The timing provies cause and effect.

 

You don't think he had protecting his empire as an agenda when, even in light of actual field use showing otherwise, he dismissed hydroxychloroquine as anecdotal?

 

You know what's interesting, though? We've been dealing with a flu season forever, yet they still can only estimate at the end of the season each year. Nobody has an issue throwing those numbers out as facts.

Then, we get something brand-freaking-new, but if there is even one mistake in the understanding of it, the "this is just another flu," people come out ranting and raving about how we don't know the facts.

WE KNOW. This will be analyzed to death until we figure it out. In the meantime, people who deny this is a big thing are just burying their heads in the sand. Why? I've no idea why it's so important to you people that this thing not be contagious or worse than the flu. I'm not sure what sort of jollies you are getting from that, but, I no longer care. Buh bye.

 

It was anecdotal. And it has not generally shown much success. Two trials were stopped because a number of people died from heart failure.

If you claim it wasn't anecdotal, show me the papers published by major medical journals.

I doubt you even know what anecdotal means!

 

When you have a few anecdotal stories, it is just that, anecdotal. Given enough anecdotal evidence, especially when it can be repeated or verified, it becomes empirical... The success of hydroxychloroquine is, most definitely, graduated from anecdotal to empirical.

 

And we put a mistaken amount of trust in the word of Lying China.

Chinese Disease blacklash begins.

“Whether this was by design or accident, Chairman Xi and China unleashed COVID-19 on the world, and now the world will make them pay for their multi-trillion dollar deception. Britain became the first to deliver economic sanctions against the communist country. Chairman Xi and WHO lied about the seriousness of this disease.”​

 

He cracked down on racial profiling, stop and frisk, and boosted NYC economy.

 

It won't stay no. 1 for long.

 

Boosted NYC economy? Easy to do when you boost the debt like crazy. Kinda like this whole 2.2 trillion spent. It helps stimulate the economy short term but hurts the country or in this case city long term.

Also according to the ACLU he didnt crack down on racial profiling.
https://www.aclu.org/blog/criminal-...frisks-plummeted-under-new-york-mayor-bill-de

 

De Blasio's approach is more a quality of life system with a loose basis on broken window policing but not the same as Giuliani or Bloomberg.

 

You are probably correct, however that will depend on how successful we are at containing the virus. Things will probably get better, but they could also potentially get much worse if this virus were to continue to spread more than it already has

 

No idea what that means.

 

I found that Canadian TV has much better Covid coverage. Check out https://www.cbc.ca

Also, Canada has begun Basic Incomes to some cities so no one is being laid out, just closing business during the pandemic. So what are you doing during the shutdown? Going bankrupt? Bill collectors banging on your door with the American flag hanging outside? Beating your spouse? Being evicted from your home? Losing your job? Forced to work in a dangerously infectious environment because you are...to put it bluntly---expendable?

 

4,000 people received about $150,000,000 per year, in monthly installments - uh,,, what? That comes out to 4,000 monthly checks for $31.250. LOL... I think not.

 

See Tables 3-1, and 3-2, on page 8.

 

You totally underestimate the ability of government overhead to consume 90% of the funding for any socialist program... That's how socialism works.. Ask any Venezuelan.

 

or ask WALL STREET SOCIALISTS!

$16 trillion in bailout money for TARP, cash for trash, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac

$12 trillion in QE

$6.5 trillion in Obama tax cuts

$3.8 trillion in W. Bush tax cuts

$1 trillion for foreign central banks

So that adds up to about $39.3 trillion dollars for THE Wall Street Communists since the 2008 crash AND IT'S STILL NOT ENOUGH FOR WALL STREET!!!

H-E-B Grocery Store in Austin, Texas
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Look it up.

 

No

 

Red Herring.. We're not talking about what welfare recipients receive, we're talking about the governments inefficiency in delivering it... If you can show that the government consumed 10 times as much as any of those handouts, you'd have a good point.

But I like fish so I'll also respond to yours... I'm against all redistribution of wealth. Government should pay for services or products received. Period.. I don't care who it is - how rich or poor, what color, race, sex.. so I'm with you.

But the biggest question about our post is, don't you just hate Nancy Pelosi?

https://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/politics/tone-deaf-joe-biden-tweets-that-he-likes-nancy-pelosis-ice-cream-tweet/89595474/

She's bragging about all the ice cream in her $20,000 freezer while folks at HEB are doing without..

 

Okay, then stay in the dark.