Coronavirus now leading cause of death in US

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  1. TCassa89

    TCassa89 Well-Known Member

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    COVID-19, which is caused by the coronavirus that is spreading across the globe, is now the deadliest disease in the U.S., causing more deaths per day than cancer or heart disease.

    A new graph published Tuesday by Maria Danilychev, a physician, showed COVID-19 is the cause of 1,970 deaths in the U.S. per day, according to Newsweek.

    It was only last week when Danilychev published a report showing COVID-19 as the third leading cause of death, taking the place of accidents, with fatalities averaging at around 748 per day.

    The rapid acceleration of coronavirus-related deaths began on March 22, when the daily average of fatalities for the virus rose above those related to flu, pneumonia, kidney disease, suicide and other leading causes.

    For comparison to the COVID-19 numbers, 1,774 deaths are attributed to heart disease and 1,641 to cancer.



    https://thehill.com/homenews/news/492053-coronavirus-now-leading-cause-of-death-in-us
    https://public.flourish.studio/visualisation/1712761/

    The coronavirus is now killing more Americans than heart disease, cancer, suicide, accidents, terrorism, and yes it is deadlier than the flu. Over 1,900 Americans are dying from the virus every day, and had we not taken the necessary steps to shut down most of the economy, these numbers would be much much worse than they are today. You'll hear many people say the steps we've taken are an overreaction, and that the virus is not that serious of a threat. These people are ignorant, and unfortunately this ignorance comes at a very high cost right now.

    I'm sorry, but you do not inherit a natural knowledge of this virus. Nobody does, the reason why we put our trust in the advice of doctors and scientists is because they are the ones who have conducted advanced research into the subject.

    Stay safe everyone
     
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    HereWeGoAgain Banned

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    Within less than a week, we should be experiencing a 911, or an Iraq war every day, in terms of Covid 19 deaths in the US.
     
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  3. TCassa89

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    I think the responsible thing to do is to not only take necessary precautions to prevent this virus from spreading, but to share this information on how serious this virus actually is. Anyone who sees someone compare this virus to the flu should inform that person that the coronavirus is currently the #1 cause of death in the US. It is literally the deadlier than anything else in America right now
     
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    No. The OP is FAKE NEWS. Even taking the doctored, puffed-up COVID numbers (have already posted the CDC flim flam COVID counting sham several times already, not doing so again here) at face value, and they are far from fairly calculated, cancer and heart disease kill many times more than COVID. That is a fact, an irrefutable sad fact of human life and death in the U.S. today. Moreover, that is not going to change any time soon.

    The LIARS LIE by using only a peak few days of a seasonal epidemic period and extrapolating those few days to a whole year. It would be somewhat similar to claiming that extrapolating Thanksgiving car wrecks on an annual basis dishonestly to claim those wrecks higher all year long. Even your 8th grader will be able to see through that, yet LW will try to scam and scare their ignorant blocs with it anyway. Don't fall for it, don't listen to shills and other self-interested gov-edu-union-contractor-grantee-trial lawyer-MSM Complex BAD ACTORS who profit from it.

    Don't be naive, don't believe Fake News. It can be a matter of life or death these days, not just partisan lying.
     
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    That's pretty serious to think about the number of people dying. May their souls rest in peace, and may whatever god they believe in look after their souls.
     
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    Not even close to being true, and if you actually took the time to read the OP, you would clearly see that this is based on how many people are currently dying every day. It's not based on how many people died died last month, or last year, it is based on how many people are currently dying every day. Today it was over 2000 people who died from the virus, and tomorrow it will probably be another 2000, and the day after that it is not unlikely to be even higher. On top of this, the overall number is likely higher than what we are seeing since many people who have died from the virus outside of the hospital are often not counted.

    Now it is true that fewer people died of the virus in January, February, and March, however that is because fewer people had contacted the virus. Now that more people have contacted the virus, it has become the #1 cause of death in the US, and had it not been for the precautions we have taken, those numbers would be much much higher than they are now. The argument over the timeline is irrational, it would be like arguing that there were 0 coronavirus related deaths in 2019, and therefore we should not take it seriously today.

    The fact of the matter is this, today Americans are more likely to die of the coronavirus than anything else out there, it is currently the biggest threat to American lives. It wasn't the biggest threat to American lives in the past, but it is the biggest threat to American lives in the present. It wasn't always the biggest threat, and it probably won't be the biggest threat for too long, depending on how successful we are at preventing this virus from spreading even more than it already has. If the virus were to become as common as the flu, the overall death rate would be expected to be in the millions by the end of the year. That is why it is important that we take this seriously, and do what we can to prevent this virus from spreading.
     
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    Wrong, OP is Fake News, you OMITTED necessary context in favor of a fear-porn headline, and that makes you patently dishonest in print for all to see.

    To make this completely clear via extrapolation:

    Someone just died of a car wreck, and in that 3 second window, car wrecks are "NOW THE DEADLIEST CAUSES OF DEATH IN THE U.S.!"

    Someone just died of shingles, and in that instant, shingles are "NOW THE DEADLIEST CAUSES OF DEATH IN THE U.S.!"

    Ad infinitum. How to LIE by omitting context and fear porning headlines. How to LIE by omitting context in a title/headline. Disgusting. How to rationalize the lying above without absurd speculations not based on any evidence, not surprised. Disgusting. That you repeat the dishonesty several times in the OP is ALSO disgusting.

    In any -adult- form of analysis, heart disease and cancer are indeed the deadliest causes of death in the U.S., COVID is not even remotely close. So STOP SPREADING FAKE NEWS AND OUTRIGHT LIES.
     
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    Great article. Thanks for posting.

    Very sad that some people are Denying the TRUTH of the OP.
     
  9. Jacob E Mack

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    I wish you were correct, but you are not:

    https://trib.al/VaPgjwo
     
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    And they aren't even including the deaths that are occurring from the virus at an alarming rate in long term care homes across the country! I suppose they'll be swept under the rug as 'age related'.
     
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    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yet other causes of death exceed to Covid projections over the course of a year. This is disingenuous...
     
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    Not necessarily but even if this proves correct right now is what matters.
     
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    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Wrong, this is sensationalist nonsense set in a limited time frame for added effect. Honest reporting would keep it in relation to all other causes of death over the span of a year. More people have already died of the leading causes of death, but because the span is longer the rate is different. If we trust projections the Covid rate declines as the other rates remain...
     
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    This is not what statisticians, medical doctors, virologists, and most epidemiologists are saying. My own research shows that this is not sensationalist or overstated.
     
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    That can only be true if Covid is the leading cause of death at the end of the year, as that is the standard measure. Any other measure is sensationalist nonsense...
     
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    It just might be. However, even if this is not true, the daily and weekly rates for now are higher and that matters in public health research.
     
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    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's just moving the goalposts to fit a narrative. We have a standard, it isn't measured in weeks or months. Covid is not being compared on that standard. If this was honest reporting you begin January 1st. How does it look when applied with the accepted standard?
     
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    Unfortunately that is not what this is, what we are talking about here is around 1900 to 2000 people dying every day from the coronavirus a day. Nothing else is killing that many Americans on a day to day basis
     
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    Not at all. The reports state exactly how much COVID-19 is spreading, the fatality rate, and increase in deaths in a given timeframe. Starting Janyary 1st is even more revealing looking at the increase in rate of change of deaths up (calculus) known as con cavity up. You are not being fair since this only early April so we do need a whole year to see the aggregate numbers over multiple seasons. However, your call to go back to January only makes the case stronger to COVID-19's fatality rate increase and stealthy nature where so many start our asymptomatic or function as vectors.
     
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    This might be a valid point and we will need to wait and see how the annual figures compare. But
    This is definitely not an honest way to get a good understanding about the toll of the Coronavirus compared to other diseases. Next we know: someone will suggest 'averaging' the deaths from the virus over the last decade and compare that average to deaths from other causes!
     
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    This will be revisited later. Enjoy your sensationalism...
     
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    Enjoy your misunderstanding
     
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    It needs to measured with an accepted standard, that is not the case now...
     
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    Every statistic can tell us something, as long as the interest isn't to politicize the science, the facts or the knowledge we can gain from it.

    The statistic in the OP tells us that in recent days, the Coronavirus has taken more lives than other causes of death in the US. That is clearly a fact worth noting, even if it doesn't necessarily mean that the Coronavirus will prove itself the "leading cause of death" in the US when all is said and done.
     
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    There is no scientific or educational value in moving the goalposts. Although I agree much can be learned and should be...
     

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