Could you vote for a Republican for Congress in 2024?

The map you posted, was it showing poverty rates based on national average of income and cost of living...or was it on a state by state basis?

For example if the national averages on cost of living an income were used, then it's possible that a person making 75,000 a year in CA could be considered above the national average for poverty but still be unable to afford a home in San Francisco, meanwhile someone in MS making only 35,000 a year might be considered "poor" when compared to the national average but still able to afford a decent home on MS.

 

Trump did great with COVID from sending a hospital ship to New York to opening a military hospital there. He fast tracked the COVID vax through the FDA in rcord time, allowing Biden to get vaxxed before he took office.
More Americans died from COVID under Biden than under Trump.
Trump's deal with Taliban was cancelled before he left office. The whole deal was "quid pro quo"... you do THIS and we will do THAT. The Taliban wouldn't take the first step of establishing a ceasefire with the Afghan Government... so the deal died right the and there... before Trump left office. Biden had SEVEN MONTHS AND TWENTY DAYS to do something better. (That's more time than it took to plan and execute the massive invasion of Guadalcanal in WWII.) Biden dis NOTHING. He simply ran away, abandoning US and allied citizens, arming the Taliban, and killing a dozen US service members in the process.
Who the hell cares what Putin says about US elections?

 

Seems like the only thing using that method is CA.

I don't live there, so I don't know all the details.
But that's not how the Actual poverty rates are calculated.
Should the be? I guess that's a discussion that could be had. But so far, that method hasn't been materialized into rates for the country.

 

Here US census bureau data.
Not factoring cost of living.

https://data.census.gov/table?q=S17...00000&tid=ACSST1Y2021.S1701&moe=false&tp=true

 

More Americans died under Biden than Trump because Biden was in office longer during the Pandemic than Trump.
Trump was President from March 16, 2020 until January 21, 2021 a total of 311 days during the pandemic with a total of 396,837 dead because of the virus. That averages 1,276.00 deaths per day
Biden has been President from Jan 21, 2021 until today. A total of 984 days as President with a total of 743,083 dead because of the virus. That averages 755 deaths per day.

This, of course, does not even take into account how many people were sick BEFORE Biden took office that eventually died. I can guarantee you that the 3,980 that died on Jan 22, 2021 were infected before Biden took office and should be part of Trump's numbers. Plus those who died in Jan 23, 24, 25, 26 or 27

 

I love the way libs massage statistics. You can interpret statistics and prove ANYTHING,

'There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics'.... Benjamin Disraeli

 

You're the one "massaging" the statistics here trying to show that Biden is responsible for worse COVID numbers than Trump.

 

More people died from COVID under Biden than under Trump,

Fact.

"Nuff said"

 

Do poor people have to eat, clothe themselves, and provide for their families basic needs? If so, the cost of living cannot be omitted is we are going to have an honest discussion.

I live here and have seen the place go to crap. The park I played as a child is now unsafe for children. It is now a homeless encampment littered with liquor bottles, needles and feces. I remember going to the toy district in L.A. and now its, you guessed it, a homeless encampment and all but a few businesses are still open. People and businesses are fleeing the state.

 

Of course. His awsomeness locked down the country long and hard, and saved millions of people, and you praise him for it

 

"'Nuff said"

It's telling that you are using a phrase popularized by a comic book publisher when trying to argue serious issues about COVID response.

 

Currently, if you are Democrat you think that way. If the Republicans decide the weaponize the justice system as the Democrats have, you will scream bloody murder.

That's the difference between us. I'll freely admit that I am a registered Republican who has worked for Republican candidates in the past. But the country and the preservation of the growth of freedom are far more important to me than the Republican Party. The party is only a means to an end.

You can look at what the Department of Justice and the FBI are doing, think it's wonderful because they are going after Trump and his support people.

I suppose you are for axing the New Jersey Senator. So am I if he's guilty, and the evidence looks that way. For you, axing him is no sacrifice because you know that it's a safe Democrat seat, and you just get to replace him with another Democrat. It's no loss to the party.

But, what if it were a competitive seat, or a seat the Democrats usually don't get. What if it were Senator Jon Tester from Montana? Would still be as ready to drive him from office?

 

Political parties don't govern. Their purpose is to get candidates elected. Why voters identify with them is beyond me.

 

And that's the difference between you and me.
If a Democrat (Robert Menedez D-NJ) gets indicted then I want them tried. I want to give them their day in court but I'm not going to assume that the Justice department (or local district attorney) is attempting to "take out" a political rival.

The ONLY reason the Republicans claim that the justice department is being "weaponized" is because, right now, it's their guys getting indicted for doing illegal stuff. If it were Clinton or Obama or even Biden that was facing the legal issues that Trump is facing right now you'd be all for it. And you know what, if the evidence were as clear against them as it is against Trump, I'd be all for it too.

I don't care what political party an indicted politician belongs to as long as the indictment is justified.

I'm for "axing" Menendez because the evidence indicates he committed a crime. Just as the evidence indicates that Trump committed a crime and the evidence indicates that Santos committed a crime.

Before Trump was elected his supporters were chanting "Lock her up" with no indictment. And now they want to impeach Biden without evidence. There is only one side attempting to "weaponize" the justice system here and it isn't the Democrats.

BTW, I'm not a Democrat. Biden was the first time (since 1980) that I've voted for a Democrat for President.

As long as the GOP continues to embrace Trump and Trumpism I'll continue to vote for Democrats. The GOP has done the one thing that the Democrats have never been able to do...make me a Democrat.

 

Somehow I doubt that. If you were a mostly Republican voter, you would be more interested in the Republican candidates who are running in the presidential primaries. I find it hard to believe that you voted for Dole in 1996, but maybe you did.

 

Perhaps pollical parties don’t govern, but their candidates do. Once elected they govern for their party’s base. Each political party has a core set of values or at least they did pre-Trump. Each wants their candidates elected to enact legislation according to the party’s values, political ideology etc. Parties can punish those who stray too far off the path such as withholding campaign funds or mounting primary challenges. There are no free agents in our government today, just party hacks.

 

Yes they, poor families, do.
Does Ca adjust their own poverty rates then and give those above the poverty line set federally more assistance?

 

Most republicans deny the 2020 election. Without a shred of evidence of there being fraud that changed the outcome.
Fox, was sued and lost for lying about Dominion voting machines.

There's no weaponization. That is pure fake news.
Why would a Dem Senator be indicted?

...
NEW YORK (AP) — Sen. Bob Menendez was charged Friday with secretly aiding the authoritarian regime of Egypt and trying to thwart the criminal prosecution of a friend in exchange for gold bars and cash as prosecutors unsealed a corruption indictment that accuses him of using his foreign affairs influence for personal gain.

The indictment, the second in eight years against the powerful 69-year-old New Jersey Democrat, alleges an illegal commingling of Menendez’s professional obligations as chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee to advance U.S. priorities and his private interests in cultivating relationships with wealthy businessmen.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politi...-his-wife-for-alleged-gold-bar-bribery-scheme

 

As an unaffiliated Independent voter, I'm nauseated at the idea of voting for nearly anyone in EITHER dominating political party. That said, as a CONSERVATIVE independent voter, there is no way imaginable that I can make myself vote for any of today's Democrat nominees -- for ANYTHING! So, it's just a matter of voting for whichever candidate seems to be more conservative than the other... and that's usually a pretty easy choice, although it's rarely ever completely satisfying at all.

 

Our Governor outlawed all the COVID tyranny like mandatory mask wearing, closing businesses and shutting schools. Our kids will be doctors and astronauts while blue state kids are still in their pajamas trying to read.

 

No other option but to purge Gaetz along with any Rinos.

 

Yes, I am not in Gate’s (distain intentional) district, but if I were, I would vote against him. He should not have a seat in Congress, and the Republican Party should not give his re-election campaign a brass farthing.

 

Long before now I had already begun to dislike and distrust Gaetz a LOT. He's a schemer, he's a 'climber', he's one of those ruinous, in-it-for-himself, "fratty-boy" kind of creeps that I regret are even loosely associated with the conservative side of politics at all.... Sure, we on the Right can agree with his stance on 'sanctuary cities', but it doesn't take much imagination for any Conservative to have an attitude toward an America-hating thing like that.

 

I'm open to either. RFK is the only D in memory that perhaps may favor my ballot with what I consider to be a reasonable position on gun control, so I tend to end up not voting D. But I'd very much like to vote for a D that isn't interested in more restrictions on the right to bear arms. Here's hoping! (but not holding my breath)

 

I have no problem with Nikki Haley. I like Tim Scott also. Trouble there is they are both from the same state.