Could you vote for a Republican for Congress in 2024?

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Given problems with electing a Speaker of the House, could you vote a Republican Rep in 2024?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  3. I am open to either party

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  1. Pro_Line_FL

    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Its weird that one day you argue laws are not enforced enough, and the next say you argue they should not be enforced at all when the accused is a member of your political party. If the legal system turned a blind eye, as you seem to think they should do, then the system would indeed be corrupt, but as of now they are doing their job. People who break the laws will, and should, face the music. Mendez is facing it, and no one accuses the system of being unfair.
     
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  2. Oh Yeah

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    It was Joe Biden, who was Vice President at the time under Obama, who threatened to withold aid to the Ukrainian government if they did not fire a prosecutor who was looking into corruption at Burisma Oil where his son Hunter worked.

    If was the CDC, under Fauci, that was giving guidelines to the Nation how to respond. The real culprit was the cover-up that Covid came from a Chinese lab. Governor Cuomo of NY made some fatal errors when he put Covid patients into old folks' homes. When your information from your government agencies was GIGO (Garbage In; Garbage Out) you can expect some dire results. Our health care system was completely unprepared for a pandemic.

    Hillary Clinton and the DNC ran a complete false dossier about Trump as proven later. Their purpose was to undermine the Trump campaign. When Hillary lost, she claimed the election was stolen. (...Umm, where have we heard that before) The FBI and other branches of our unintelligent services were more than eager to believe the crap from Hillary and her campaign. IMO, the damage that Clinton, the FBI, CIA, the media and others did to undermine the election of Trumps victory in 2016 and the cover-up led to a total mistrust of the results of the 2020 election. That in turn led to the Jan.6th fiasco. The people may have been wrong to storm the Capital, but I believe that deep in their hearts, that they believed the election was being stolen.

    Trump just wanted to get us out of a country that we never should have been in. The problem there was the withdrawal and leaving all our military equipment behind. We withdrew our troops out too early, under Biden. The Afghans were perfectly willing to let the U.S. fight its war against the Taliban and Trump was not willing to do that and decided to withdraw. Had he won the election the withdrawal would have been completely different and more orderly.
     
  3. Oh Yeah

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    I tried to buy up foreclosures in Vegas in 2008 and guess what, they were already in the hands of large realtors and other investors. It's not as easy as one would think. I would be willing to bet that the "easy money" has already been made. People just get caught up in all the hype of these bubble assets and down the road they are holding the bag. It's like all these commercials you see on TV about Gold and Silver going to the moon. One needs to remember that the banks own and control the price of silver and the countries own and control the price of gold, diamonds and other precious metals. Remember when Bitcoin was $ 50,000. The big money has already been made in AI stocks. It is only a handful that get lucky enough to strike it rich.
     
  4. Nwolfe35

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    This has been debunked so many times that anyone who still tries to use this as a talking point is either willfully ignorant of the situation or lying to try and score political points.

    Actually it was prepared but Trump decided to disband the global health unit that was part of the NSC. The "cover-up" as to whether or not COVID originated in a lab was irrelevant. Time and resources, that could have been better used actually fighting the pandemic, was wasted on this theory. You don't worry how a fire started until you have the actual fire under control. Furthermore, Trump undermined Fauci every chance he got.

    They "believed" the election was being stolen because Trump beat the drum with the lie that it was stolen. Trump knew that the election had not been stolen but it didn't stop him from repeating the lie (and he continues to repeat today) that it was stolen.

    That may be true, but he went about it all wrong. Once we were in we had an obligation to the government of Afghanistan that Trump ignored. And you have no idea how the withdrawal would have gone under Trump if he had won.
     
  5. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It would appear that CA gives just enough assistance to keep them in perpetual poverty.
     
  6. dairyair

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    Then the official poverty line is what the census bureau publishes.
    Accord to Ca.
     
  7. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Money does not have the same value from state to state. CA is the 4th largest economy in the world, has the highest taxes, and Dem control. Those who have become dependent on government will continue to vote for Dems while businesses and earners are fleeing. The dem model is just not sustainable.
     
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  8. JohnHamilton

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    If you can't afford a house, apartment, condo or bathroom in California, you can live on the street. Many people have chosen that option. The added benefit is that illegal recreational drugs are at your doorstep, or more accurately, your tent flap.

    California is a mess, and yet the progressives view it as the idea state. Los Angeles and San Francisco used to be among the desirable cities in the U.S. Now they are cesspools, and the productive people are fleeing them, especially San Francisco.
     
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  9. Oh Yeah

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    How would you like to live in Richmond California where their city council just condemned Israel and voted to support Hamas atrocities in its war against Israel. Is this just an outlier or the beginning of the end?
     
  10. Doofenshmirtz

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    True. There is a measure on the upcoming ballot to force hotels to report vacant rooms so that homeless people can sleep there. For those planning a vacation in CA, they can expect a unique experience in the elevators and hallways.
     
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    Yep.
    But still uses federal poverty $$ for public assistance.
     
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  12. JohnHamilton

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    It’s an example of what the left is. They totally ignorant of the fact that the people they are supporting are far worst than most any modern conservative they could imagine. These fundamentalist Muslims deny women their most fundamental rights and kill gay people if they catch them in the act. They share none of the values the left professes they represent,
     
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    This might kill the tourism industry in California. The far left is going to keep fooling until they end up with an economic basket case, despite the fact that California currently has the fourth largest economy in the world. Fixing it will be harder than the left might think.
     
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    It appears the goal is to keep them in perpetual dependency so they have no choice but to vote for what sustains their existence.
     
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    Working better jobs not an option?
     
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    It should be, but Dem policies are chasing employers out of state. The legal climate is also unfriendly towards businesses.
     
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    Not many things are.
    Outside of helping the poor, disabled, and elderly.
     
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    unfortunately, these people are worse off.
     
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    So you want more government help?
     
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    Like diabetics need more sugar.
     
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    The issue for me is not whether the person I vote for is a Republican or Democrat or something else. It's what the person stands for, and, if applicable, what their voting record indicates. I would happily vote for a Republican like Hogan and refuse to vote for one like Andy Harris of MD. I would happily vote for a Democrat such as Bill Clinton and shun one such as Hillary Clinton. I have voted third party in the past and will do so again, depending on who is up for election.

    Voting strictly on the basis of party without looking at the person themselves is the action of a moron.
     
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    It’s moronic to a point. The trouble is the Democrats have incredible party discipline. If you disagree with most of the Democrat Party agenda, you can’t vote for one of their House or Senate candidates because when they get to Washington, they will vote with party. The only significant dissenter has been Joe Mansion, and he has a caught a lot of grief from the party for that.

    Obviously the Republicans have had some bad candidates, like Santos and especially Matt Gaetz. I would vote for almost any Democrat to dump him. Who would I not vote for? Tlaib and Omar who who are strong anti-Semites. I might be left leaving the ballot blank in that spot, which I used to do when I lived in Massachusetts.
     
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    This will be the first election in which I've voted straight ticket. So long as Trump is the leader of the GOP, I can't really vote for a Republican. And right now he has a stranglehold on the party.
     

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