They are not people so shouldn't be counted. But a bump because I am interested in the answers of lifers.
This is the dumbest thread I have ever seen. What, you want to count used condoms too? How about handjobs by young boys?
Every Abortion is Killing of a Human Being, please do not forget that Abortions have already killed more as 40 millions Americans.
"People" and "human" are different terms. No, they aren't people in terms of being an outside-of-the-womb "person", but they are most definitely human beings inside and outside of the womb.
Such sticklers of Obama's citizenship. But willing to hand it to 40 million who definitely weren't born in the US. This is the generosity of compromised values.
If fetuses were protected---it would be useful information on the state of the nation. The birth rate and births estimated---is important in census data.
I voted no. But then I realized that was just politics talking. In reality I see no problem with taking data on how many expectant children there will be in the next year.
Liberals are sad. I know it's a surprise Hilbert but my mother didn't get counted in the last census. She's dead. She probably voted for President Obama and she was dead then, too, so dead doesn't mean totally gone, does it. Just because dead people get to vote for Democrats doesn't mean they get counted in the census. The OP was incredibily stupid so I didn't vote in the silly poll.
perhaps the 3/5ths compromise could be reinstated and amended to replace slaves with fetuses The Constitution of the United States Article I - The Legislative Branch, Section 2 - The House "Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons" isn't that the point of this thread?
I'm pro-choice, but I think most definitely they should be counted, if Reps/cons are going to consider them persons. They should also be "deductibles" for tax purposes. If you want to consider them as "persons" then they should have every right that a person has. Not sure how this would be carried out, but that is a possible result of such absurd laws. Women who have miscarriages should also be investigated for murder, and the fetus should have a funeral, all at the expense of the parents. They should be able to vote by proxy (one of the parents can cast their vote). I'm sure there are more benefits, but can't think of them at the moment.
Why do Republican/conservatives make such outrageous and untrue statements without backing them up? Perhaps the dead people voted for McCain and Palin, I know a lot of brain-dead people that did.
Sure, but they ought to be counted less than born babies. Well, with the exclusion of abortion, they do basically have every right that a person has. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jun/24/america-pregnant-women-murder-charges It's not unheard of, and I think it's definitely warranted sometimes. I guess you don't realize how often people do have funerals for their stillborn children, at their own expense. No one has the right to vote until 18.
Although that's a sticky question when many women don't like to admit they're expecting until a good amount of time has passed. But assuming nobody minded at least it would be potentially useful data. Asking about abortions, or just adding a column to a page in the census, seems kind of an arbitrary value to include. And if the motivation is the somehow honor their lives (and not flaunt the figure for political gain.) Using the common metric that life begins at conception as many as 3/4 of all successful fertilizations spontaneously abort, often before the woman knows she's pregnant. And once you're tested positive as pregnant one in five will miscarry. These deaths, presumably at the hands of god if you believe in such things and you're keeping score, dwarf medical abortions. Quickly googling a bit I get just over 4 million live births per year making it about 20 million the number of abortions nobody talks about. Compared to under 1.2 million per year according to the CDC. If the goal is to correctly account for all the potential lives then anyone not including these numbers is being dishonest or they're unaware of these facts and aren't qualified to form an informed opinion. And if they know but don't want to dilute the numbers then it's obvious the move is political and not lto honor or remember anyone.
Nice try, Mertex. There isn't a snowball's chance in hell they voted for McCain. There is no Republican equivalent to ACORN. No, the greedy, selfish, racist nitwits who voted for President Obama are desperate to say, "They do it, too," just like little kids.
achievemente says, "This is the dumbest thread I have ever seen" I was only treying to point out how ridiculous you GOPpers are, and suceeded with you!
I know! Citizenship ought to be granted to all CONCIEVED in the U.S. Where they were born wouldn't matter. Imagine Mexican women streamnin g across the border for 1 night stands!
The only people counted are those who lived in the home on the census date, which is the same date for everyone, not the date the census taker visited the home. Or at least that's how it used to be. I know this from doing genealogical research. Just because someone was born in the census year, that doesn't mean you'll find them listed in the census record for that year. In fact, if the census date was June 1st and someone had a child after that date, the child wasn't counted even if the census taker visited the home after the birth. So when doing research, we have to be conscious of what the census date was and if we know the full birth date, whether it falls after the census date. Are we going to start asking on what date the woman got pregnant in order to determine whether or not the unborn child should be counted for that census year? Good luck with that.
And since 50% of all conceptions do not implant or are naturally aborted in the first weeks - that must mean God kills Americans eh?
Could you imagine the question bank surrounding this? Are you female? Are you pregnant? Are you sure you are not pregnant? Have you had a pregnancy test in the last week? If not go to question 52 and use the attached kit
