Creationism

Discussion in 'Religion & Philosophy' started by magnum, Mar 30, 2011.

  1. FreeWare

    FreeWare Active Member Past Donor

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    No, that's not bad and if there is any badness depends on what you fancy beyond this. It's no secret that most religious people fancy spreading their truths wide and far. And that's where the bad parts lie.

    I don't know about your desire to argue but it seems you just made an argument comparable to creationism.
     
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    FreeWare Active Member Past Donor

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    Then make humor instead of making people's toes curl. Heck, if you post more along this line, I'll be off to see the podiatrist.
     
  3. BFSmith@764

    BFSmith@764 Banned

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    I agree with you on that. Nothing that man produce on their own can be trusted or void of lies, misinformation and manipulation of the truth. So yes, I too hands-down I will trust that Bible any day over what is passed off as science.
     
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    BFSmith@764 Banned

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    Modern medicine is like that as well...even American history has been white washed to make America look good or not so bad......governments lie, the media misinforms, twist the truth...the corruption of human being to be corrupt and taint everything it puts it hands on has no boundary. The Bible is the only Book that has stood up to the skeptics and critics of the past,(they were seem to be right until something was discovered that proved them wrong and the Bible right) and it will prove the skeptics of today wrong as well.....guaranteed.
     
  5. Darth Desolas

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    Go ahead and make that computer using the bible then. Or that car. Or pretty much anything in the modern world.

    The bible was conceived, written and spread (often by the sword) by MAN.

    And it is wrong in so many ways it shouldn't be a source for anything but disgust at the primitive nature of mankind when trying to understand without the right tools to do it.

    When we have the right tools, (science) mankind can do almost anything it puts effort to. Man was not put on the moon by faith, but hard science.

    If you want to believe in your fairytales and horror stories by all means go for it. But don't pretend it's reliable in any way shape or form. Because it is not only unreliable, it's just plain wrong.
     
  6. FreeWare

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    Hoorray for Gutenberg!


    .. or darn his invention? Dang, all those mixed signals.
     
  7. BFSmith@764

    BFSmith@764 Banned

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    And what is your point?
     
  8. stroll

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    "mixed signals"

    make up your mind...

    Oh, and the bible hasn't "stood up to skeptics", quite the opposite, as has been attested to many times on this forum.
     
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    If it is an issue you agree with it is education, if you don't it's brainwashing?
     
  10. NaturalBorn

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    Try playing the lottery for five billion years, but instead of a system with only 10,000 possible combinations, using 26 character combinations 0...9 you get 36^4=36*36*36*36=1 679 616 (This looks like a really big number to me.)

    There is a big difference you are distorting with your lottery analogy.
     
  11. stroll

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    Hmm..., it's not a distortion at all.

    Do the maths!
     
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    I tend to believe that God made man in His image- as sentient beings with knowledge of good and evil and free will. God can be some kind of octopus for all we know but he ain't Charlton Heston.

    The Universe is full of beings made in God's image- sentient beings like us.

    I really don't see a conflict here and this side-steps "creationism" entirely.
     
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    How would you know that the universe is full of beings made in your God's image? :D
     
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    Star Trek.... And they all speak english!
     
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    To quote you: ".. the corruption of human being to be corrupt and taint everything it puts it hands on has no boundary"
     
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    Nice. And the bible or any other religious book? What? They aren't human made? Who wrote the bible? Humans, then it is based on corrupt human. Your argument is invalid. Research any other.

    Do you know the principles of science? Science is based on falseably models, if it isn't falseably it isn't valid as model. Creationism doesn't accomplish this principle, so it can't be considered as a correct explication, and also fails in too many questions.

    The first one, if everything needs a designer, who designed the designer? And who designed the designer of the designer...?
     
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    Indeed. I'm no longer a christian because I started reading the bible in depth.
     
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    Creationism isn't education, it's religion. You'd better learn the difference, otherwise you might wind up have some hindu's teaching their version of creationism, or muslims teaching their version of creationism, or some shintoists teaching their version of creationism, all to your children.

    *insert circa 40's dramatic music*

    1. When you can nail down that creationism is a fact, and that 2. it points to YOUR god specifically, then you call it "education." Since creationism fails every piece of criteria needed to be scientific, we can't even get past step one, much less get through step 2.
     
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    Odds = one of the worst arguments in creationism. They were stupid back when I was a christian, and nothing's changed now.

    What are the odds of a single atom in a single grain of sand on a single beach being exactly where it needs to be? Equally high number.
     
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    Like the bible and god?

    PS: Science has flown man to the moon, faith has flown man into buildings.
     
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    First thing: unlike yourself I don't buy the government story that the people they claim did it, actually did. More likely, is that certain individuals in the U.S government and others used the ones that did it to carry it out. Now as for faith......faith is not the problem......the problem is there are people who are willing to kill others because of what they believe, and one does not have to be religious to do that.
     
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    Well, at least we can agree that being a young earth creationist is about as rational as being a truther.
     
  23. rstones199

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    Like the Crusades? :rolleyes:

    PS: Nice dodge on this:

    Like the bible (written by man) and god(invented by man)?
     
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    You are blaming what the Catholic Church did on Christians that have no affiliation with that Church. Did you know that the Catholic Church persecuted Christian who was not part of that Church?



    If it was up to mere men none of what the Bible predicted would have happen. The Bible also foretell the rise again of the Roman Empire, that world thought was dead. And even now as we speak that system is slowly being set in place. It predicts that no one will be able to buy or sell unless they receive what the Bible calls the mark of the beast. So if I were you, I would be looking out for a system that will be set up worldwide that will be the most oppressive system that have ever existed on the Earth.
     
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    You missed the point. Just as faith drove the 19 idiots to fly airplanes into our buildings, faith is what drove the crusades.
    This faith is the same faith you have: faith in an imaginary creature you have ZERO evidence for.


    Like the Book of Genesis? :rolleyes:
     

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