If that was the reason you would have Christians all over the world coming acts of terror. Like the book of Genesis what?
FBI Arrests Potential Domestic Christian Terrorist The Book Of Genesis is has been proven to be bunk. Even Christians say, it should not be taken literally. This is a great example of: The book of Gensis just shows the Bible was written by man for man. If it was 'inspired by god' then why isnt Evolution, Abiogenesis, The Big Bang, how solar systems are formed, etc. in the book of genesis? The book of genesis has the Earth forming before the sun! Theres a hoot. This god supposedly knows all, like what humans would accomplish. So why 'inspire' man to write a book that would be bunk 2,000 years later? Surely an omnipotent 'perfect' god could do better!
You use one guy in the U.S and you believe it means that all Christians worldwide is guilty of terrorism? I don't know who these people you call Christians are. Just because a person calls themselves a Christian does not mean that they are, that is one of the things Jesus warned His people about. Some of Jesus' parables were about false Christians. And anyone can make the claim that Genesis should not be taken literally, but the thing is to prove it. The Bible is not a science book. Man has the ability to discover those things on their own; they don't have the ability to know who created it.....so God simply tell us that He did it. Bunk to you, not to us. It is very easy to dismiss something when you don't understand it.....kind of like the story of the fox and the grape. The fox called the grape sour because it was too high for him it get it. You can't understand the Bible so you call it bunk.
Perhpas you missed this part (I dont know how, I did quote the 1st half of this last time ) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Question, how do you know what Jesus said? His supposed words weren’t now written down till 40 years after his supposed execution. You yourself have said man in fallible. You expect me to believe that after 40 years, the men who supposedly wrote what Jesus said got it right? HA! Evolution disproves the book of genesis. Homosapines (A.K.A. Human beings) evolved from an ape creature from millions of years ago, not poofed into life after god pick up some dirt. And females were 'invented' along before god took Adams ribs and poofed Eve into the world. Evolution disproves all of these, and before you say, evolution is just simply gods way of doing things (as I have heard from more than a few christians) let me remind you, if this is gods way of doing things, WHY ISNT IT THE BOOK OF GENESIS?.. Speaking of that: Who said the bible is a science book? Throwing red herrings I see. You missed the points – the bible has NOTHING right when it comes to the creation of the universe or of life – NOTHING. I will admit, I have not read the whole bible, Truth be told, I cant get past the book of genesis. Its such bunk. What is there to understand? The only thing there is to understand is the bible is fiction, pure and simple. The problem is when people take the bible literally and deny others the rights based on this fairytale know as god. The problem is when people refuse to look at reality and evidence, like Evolution, and try to come up with any and all ridiculous excuses they can – man is fallible, I don’t trust science, its the work of the devil, People who refuse to look at evidence are quite dangerous if you ask me, because you refusal does effect my life, and your rights end where my nose begins.
That is still in the U.S. So that leaves all the other 99.99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% that is peaceful in the U.S alone. You can't find a normal Christian engaging in terrorism so you use a fanatical group to use to blanket all Christians around the world. Can you prove it is not? There is nothing in evolution that is proven.....it is just an assumed theory. That is what you believe. Like I said, you can't understand it so you dismiss it. Evolution is an invention of Darwin's mind and others have been seduced by his lie. But you are free to believe whatever you want.....I will keep on trusting the Bible.
The book of Genesis was written by man, but the question is, was it inspired by the word of God? Comparing it to other world religions, I find it the most believable. At least you have the basic tenant for what developed even though you may not agree as to the exact order. It is far better than a story about a pink elaphant floating down to earth and fighting a fire breathing dragon for supremacy over the godchild Thor, for example. I also questioned the literacy of the Bible for some of the reasons you list, however, a book called Genesis and the Big Bang gave me pause. The author was Dr. Gerald Schoeder, who was both a scientist and theologian. In the book he dug up some ancient rabbinical theologians who studied Genesis in its original Hebrew dialect. In the interpretations of these accounts in Genesis, the rabbis came up with some startling conclusions. They wrote that the six days should not be considered six literal days. They also wrote that Adam was not the only humanoid in the Garden of Eden. Man only became human once God breathed a spirit into him. How could they get these interpretations simply by studying the Hebrew text? Beats me. Perhaps it was a combination of an expertese in the language as well as passed down knowledge. Either way it is astounding because it was all interpreted pre-modern science. Schroeder even came up with a theory as to the 6 day time line of Creation. He theorizes that day one was about 8 billion years old and then day two was about 4 billion, and then day three was 2 billion etc. In essense, he theorized that as the universe doubled in size, time for each day was "halved". What is interesting is that his time line often parallels the evolutionary time line. For example, day 5, when the ocean was filled with life, matches the Cambrian explosion mentioned in evolution according to his time line. So am I saying that Schroeders insights are 100% legite? No, but I am saying is that perhaps he does have some insight. In addition, no matter the truth about our origins, none of us has all the answers and never will have. As for the Bible being "infallible", I used to believe it was. Now I'm not so sure. After all, the Bible never claims to be infallible, rather, it only claims to be the inspired word of God. Does this mean that it is bunk and be dismissed altogether? Far from it. In fact, I believe most of what is said is based in truth even though some details may be missed here or there. In fact, the Bible is the only religious text I know of with a science based upon it, namely Biblical Archeology. These are not religious fundamentalists, rather, they are sceintists who recognize that the Bible has enough truth in it to use it as a guide for their studies. So that brings us to what the Bible is all about. It is NOT a book of science. In fact, creation is limited to a few chapters in Genesis!! The Bible is about the God of the Bible and his relationship to mankind. It is a story of man's love and faith and hope in God while struggling in an ever changing and fleeting material world.
Can you prove that it is? Prove it. I will say that the Pink Panda says that what this jesus supposedly said in the bible, was never said at all. Can you prove the Pink Panda wrong? This is essentially what you are saying here. That evolution happens is 100% fact. There is as much doubt as to whether evolution happens as there as to how much doubt whether the Earth orbits the sun. The only thing changes on Evolution is the human understanding of the hows and whys, not whether or not it happens. You should take your own advice on 'you can't understand it so you dismiss it'. Darwin was right was right that over time, one species does indeed turn into another. That is not a lie. That is fact, 100% fact. Birth of New Species Witnessed by Scientists Humans have seen one species turn into another, but yet you claim it is lie.
Again showing your ignorance. Do you know what is a theory in science? Then it's the maximum category of something scientific. If it was nothing proven it would be an hypothesis not a theory. A scientific theory is a group of laws. And it is evolution. Then theory of gravity is just that? An assumed theory? Your ignorance in science is great. Creationism isn't more than fantasy.
Considering that bible is just a mix of different beliefs, like Egypt myths, babilonic myths and many other and adapted. Even is based on epic poems like the sumerian Gilgamesh. That's the reality. The bible is man made, so it has thousand of mistakes, and more considering that is 2000 years old. And about creationism, if we consider that catholicism says that the evolution theory is correct. They couldn't do anything else that accept the evidence that creationism was wrong.
No, it is not. It is exactly the same. And I do mean exactly; in the exact meaning of the word "exactly".
Listen, we have all been through this merry-go-round, so why continue this silly game? If you don't like what we believe why come into a forum on religion? Why not stick to the science forum? You believe what you believe and I will believe what I believe and leave it at that.
So, why are YOU still posting on a debate forum, and don't stick to Christian sites where disagreement is forbidden and atheists are banned?
Scientific research shows evidence that the Earth could not be millions of years old. There are too many systems that when extrapolated backwards in time could not have sustained life or much of anything on Earth. (DEFINITION: From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (Redirected from Scientific research) Scientific method refers to a body of techniques for investigating phenomena, acquiring new knowledge, or correcting and integrating previous knowledge.[1] To be termed scientific, a method of inquiry must be based on gathering observable, empirical and measurable evidence subject to specific principles of reasoning.[2] The Oxford English Dictionary says that scientific method is: "a method of procedure that has characterized natural science since the 17th century, consisting in systematic observation, measurement, and experiment, and the formulation, testing, and modification of hypotheses."[3])
Show that "scientific researchs" that say so thing. No Scientific research says that the Earth has no million years. All agree with that Earth has millions of years. You must show the evidence of that affirmation. But as you won't be able, I can't take seriously your affirmation. And why did you write what is the science research? We already know that :-S I don't understand the relation with this, and more coming from a faithfull person.
To pre-refute the same old clap-trap about ID or Creation Scientists not conduction real science research. They do, and have proof of their findings, and you know that.
If you don't want to see this off to the Lost Land of Fallacies, you need to account for at least one such system. This of course includes accounting for the methods of such an extrapolation.
Creation or ID SCientists? WTF. There are scintists of that kind? I thought that were just illusionists xD. Sorry but I can't take it seriously. Show proof of that. And they aren't scientists because fail in one thing: - Their theory isn't falseable. So they aren't doing science.
Considering that; If > . < this period were the earth. It would be in the Milky Way Galaxy that would be represented as about the size of the United States. There are estimated to be billions of other galaxies. Can anyone reasonably explain why some god would go through all the trouble of creating such a vast universe that is physically impossible for any human to ever truly experience or even totally understand? And then choose a handful of nomad tribes to be 'his chosen people'? I'm just sayin', it doesn't make sense. Unless, of course, it all pertains to some 'spiritual' level only and has no true relationship with the physical universe.
The rotation of the Earth is a known velocity and the degradation has been measured and would not sustain life back millions of years. Saline content of the oceans is too low for millions of years. The Sun's contraction has been measured. The nickel content from "space dust" hitting the Earth has been measured and is significantly below millions of years. Erosion of river valleys, canyons, mountains is signoficantly less that would be measured for millions of years. The distance of our moon from the Earth is significantly out of orbit to account for millions of years of degrading.
I don't know. Neither do you. At this time, considering what we actually know about the universe, any opinion I had on the subject would be just that...an opinion. Anything is possible...including creationism. I simply question; why?
If you believe the word of goat herders from over 2,000 years ago is the unalterable truth but the modern overwhelming scientific consensus must be wrong because it conflicts with what the goat herders said...you are brainwashed.
I would guess that Man's brains have evolved enough to understand the superstitions of 2,000 years ago were only their way, with their limited, unevolved brains, to account for the things that science has been able to prove as wrong-headed fantasies.
