Criminal defendant Trump

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  1. Statistikhengst

    Statistikhengst Well-Known Member

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    Oh LOL
     
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    Statistikhengst Well-Known Member

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    The possibility exists
     
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    True!
    Boy does it ever! :)
     
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    That is what this is really about. Most have already found him guilty based on what the media fed them. I don't even like the guy and this is not right.
     
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    Statistikhengst Well-Known Member

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    What exactly is not right? Please explain
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Using the justice system for political purposes. As much as I dislike the man, this appears to be a political distraction to take focus off of the results dems in power are producing. Like I said, I wouldn't vote for him; I voted for Jo.
     
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    Statistikhengst Well-Known Member

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    But Bragg is not doing that.

    A grand jury indicted criminal defendant Trump for 34 crimes.
     
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    You can indict a ham sandwich. The law is not on Bragg's side and he knows it which is why he isn't telling Trump's defense what he is accusing them of.
     
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    Exactly what they are accusing Trump of is in the indictment. Did you not read it?
     
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    The charges have multiple elements including fraud. But, they don't tell Trump who he is accused of defrauding.

    That's like being charged with first degree homicide, but there's no body or a person you're accused of killing. How do you start pre-trial defences to that? How do you make appropriate pre-trial motions?

    You can't because Bragg isn't telling Trump's what he's accused of doing.
     
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    Statistikhengst Well-Known Member

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    That will all come out in discovery, exactly as it should. And the prosection is also, by law, allowed to add more and more to it's evidence as the process continues. It's all within the normal realm.
     
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    Yet trump claims that Americans think he's innocent and the hush-money charges are just a 'witch hunt" by an evil district attorney who's out to get him.
    A political persecution!

    Meanwhile if he actually believes that his arrest will be first and foremost in potential jurors minds he'd shut the **** up and stop whining about it on Truth Social and in interviews 24/7.

    'Trump seeks 4-week delay in rape accuser's trial, cites 'prejudicial' media

    coverage'

    Source: Reuters

    "Donald Trump asked a U.S. judge to delay the scheduled April 25 trial over whether he defamed former Elle magazine columnist E. Jean Carroll by denying he raped her, citing the recent "deluge of prejudicial media coverage" of criminal charges against him.

    In a Tuesday night letter to U.S. District Judge Lewis Kaplan in Manhattan, Trump's lawyers said a four-week "cooling off" period to at least May 23 was necessary to guarantee the former U.S. president's right to a fair trial in Carroll's case.

    Absent a delay, "many, if not most, prospective jurors will have the criminal allegations top of mind when judging President Trump's defense against Ms. Carroll's allegations," Trump's lawyers Joe Tacopina and Alina Habba said in the letter.'

    Read more: https://www.reuters.com/legal/trump...amation-trial-over-media-coverage-2023-04-12/
     
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    Nelson Mandela was imprisoned.....I bet you celebrated that.
     
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    Ahh, so Trump can't get the doxed name of a juror(s) and turn lose his little soldiers on them.
    So sad.


    'Even lawyers in civil rape case against Trump can't learn jurors' names'
    'Trump's combative out-of-court actions with regard to his Manhattan criminal prosecution have surfaced once again in his federal civil case down the street.'


    https://www.msnbc.com/deadline-whit...-carroll-civil-trial-anonymous-jury-rcna79188
     
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    It's totally understandable where Trump is coming from since he or his Republican PACS or the RNC would never-ever pay for a Republican's defense attorney., especially if they were called before the something like the J6,or a Grand Jury even a Special Grand Jury. :roflol:
    Meanwhile it's totally legal but HabbaHabba claims it's "troubling".:roflol:

    'Trump asks to delay Carroll trial after learning she was funded by a donor to Democrats'

    snip

    "The eleventh-hour disclosure that Plaintiff’s legal fees are being subsidized by American Future Republic and Reid Hoffman is troubling and raises significant questions that require further investigation,” Trump attorney Alina Habba wrote in a letter to the judge overseeing the case."

    cont:
    https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/13/politics/trump-carroll-case-delay-request/index.html
     
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    The problem is polls go up and down. The second problem is the election is some a year and a half away. The thrid problem is by the time two weeks before the general election, more important issues will dictate the outcome of who wins and loses in the general election.
     
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    Never knew a prostitute was left off the hook unless the police officer wanted a freebie sort of thing. And that happened a lot in the 1970s.

    Most women are not left of the hook, in fact, if a woman is working at the time, and is just the towel girl, she is more than likely to be charged with a misdemeanor prostitution charge in order for her to talk to the DA and then dropped, especially if they are immigrants. They have a really good idea of what is going on and can provide the details to fill in the blanks, but they are not in the actual acts of committing prostitution.
     
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    I see your point but I was referring to Clinton.
     
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    Criminal defendant Trump had to reappear in NYC in the last days for a second deposition in yet another case against him and his company. At the first deposition, he pleaded the 5th well over 400 times, so I expect this one went just about at famously. If I recall correctly, Laetitia James's court proceeding against him is a civil proceeding, meaning that a jury is indeed allowed to a negative inference when the accused pleads the 5th, as opposed to what a jury is instructed to do in a criminal trial.

    My goodness, with all of these court dates, we may need to set up a Trump crime calendar, here!
     
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    Special prosecutor Jack Smith is closing in more and more on criminal defendant Trump, with more and more people in Trump's closest orbit already having had to sit down and have a chat with that nice man.

    But now he is researching the $$$ reaped in by the donations because of "stop the steal" in relation to the January 6th insurrection that criminal defendant Trump sparked and incited and cheered on.

    So, to encapsulate we have:

    -a criminal process against Trump in NYC (Bragg) over the hush money stuff.
    -a civil process against Trump and his company in NYC (James) over his criminal financial activities
    -a civil process against Trump in NYC (Kaplan) over rape and defamation.

    Coming up:
    -a criminal indictment in Georgia over election fraud, interference, false electors and more
    -a (or more than one) federal criminal indictment(s) (Jack Smith) concerning January 6th.
    -a (or more than one) federal criminal indictment(s) (Jack Smith) concerning multiple stolen top secret/compartmented documents illegally held at Mar a Lardo.

    That's a LOT of criming in public.
     
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    For which the statute of limitations ran out 5 years ago and minor misdemeanors stemming from one legal payment to one person for a legal NDA.

    If his name were not Trump do you think this prosecution would be occuring?
     
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    Nope,
    Stormy Daniel's lawyer approached The National Enquirer about selling her story.
    Enter the "catch & kill" scheme between Trump/Cohen and Pecker for both her story and Karen McDougal's story.
     
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    This is huge,closest to a gag order.
    A must listen.

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    Michael Popok of Legal AF reports on breaking news that Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg has filed an emergency motion for protective order in the criminal prosecution of Trump to keep his hands off the evidence turned over to him, and prevent him from commenting on it on social media or otherwise, based on his history of bashing and doxing witnesses, investigators, law enforcement, prosecutors, judges and their families."

     

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