Defund-the-police Dem calls for more police amid crime wave: 'I feel betrayed by the department'

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  1. spiritgide

    spiritgide Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nasty, mean, racist police, killing all those innocent black people. If the cops would all just die, everything would be great. Wouldn't it??

    The most likely murderer of a black person IS a black person.
    Black people are 13% of our population. They are responsible for 52% of our murders.
    A white person is 42 times more likely to be the victim of felonious assault by a black person than a black person is by a white person. 42 Times.
    And they don't need any cops. Till someone busts a cap on them, then they demand protection.....

    Half a story is half a truth, and always a lie.
     
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    why would you say that, the left doesn't want criminal cops to die, just not to be police officers and to be held accountable when then commit crimes

    yes, black criminals commit crimes too, that doesn't excuse cops committing crimes
     
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    That is not a rational response to the current level of police homicide.

    Plus, let's remember that homicide is the worst outcome possible.

    But, it is NOT some sole measure of satisfactory interaction with the public.

    It doesn't address being pulled over for no reason or any of the countless harassments and unsubstantiated suspicions that police dish out on a daily basis.
     
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    You might be right but y’all were not saying this when Hillary and Biden was under investigation. That’s the problem here — neither side cares as long as it is their opposition that’s being targeted. Look at Florida and Disney. If that was a liberal governor attacking a Republican company that disagreed with abortion…
     
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    First of all- nobody is perfect and that applies in every calling- teachers, politicians, police. An officers job is very dangerous and stressful- he deals with the kind of things everyday that you might encounter a few times in your life. They get called pigs and names and have trash thrown at them, deal with the worst of society- and have to remain civil and polite while you are being a jackass complaining about them doing their job in a traffic stop. Few people- and I think that would include you- could do the job better than the average cop does. Cutting police funding made the job tougher, made pay lower and hiring cops good cops much harder yet demanding more of them and actually targeting them- and the crime waves all over the country are the result. A really stupid move.

    But then, those who can't cut it are always ready to tell those who step up to the plate whats wrong with them and how they should do their job. I do hope that when those people need the police, they experience the ultra-long response times and lower service levels from less qualified cops that they are responsible for. That would be fair.

    And black criminals don't "commit crimes too". They dominate the crime stats. If you disregard all the crimes that the black 13% of our nation are responsible for, the national crime rate would drop close to 50%.
    And the legitimate statistics do not show cops to be brutal or unfeeling by nature commonly- just the opposite. We have people, and I think likely you might fit- who jump on everything that the MSM throws out there for clickbait and chew on it like a dog with a bone- while ignoring the real performances and dedication of our cops. Cops have to be careful; have to stay in charge when interacting with citizens- because the risk is always there. Behave yourself- you have no problem, and they will usually treat you with respect.

    Some cities have a program where you, as a citizen can sign up for a "Ride Along" experience, where you take the shotgun seat on a patrol and observe. That's usually not in dangerous places, but you would learn a lot. I once disarmed a drunk as he was reaching for his .357 revolver over being angry with the sheriff trying to help him. Not a bad guy, just very drunk and one of those who become belligerent in that state.
    Good chance I saved that cop from being shot by what was normally a good citizen- meaning I saved the citizen too. If I hadn't been along, things might have been much different. That kind of thing is part of their everyday job, dealing with drunks and addicts as well as belligerents and genuine bad guys- and the moment they get careless and forget their discipline, they can get killed.

    Get yourself educated about what their job is really like, and ask yourself how you would handle it.
     
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    Did reality set in:
     
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    The Minneapolis police force was examined and found to have a number of disastrous problems.

    They don't get some free ride on that as a result of ANYTHING you have said above.

    One of more damning entries was that it was reported that the interviews of policemen showed that they were all concerned about being considered racist. BUT, the terminology and examples they used in the interviews WERE RACIST.

    Your estimations of the need for policing are NOT the issue here.

    The issue is that the police force was failing, and finally totally collapsed.
     

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