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Democrat Conor Lamb declares victory in Pennsylvania race

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  1. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Asinine strawman duly noted!

    The electorate was ANGRY and was going to punish whomever was in office. It was just bad luck for the Dems that they had inherited both the GOP's economic malfeasance and the wrath of We the People.

    2010 was an emotional vote rather than a rational one.
     
    Derideo_Te, Mar 17, 2018
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    The Dems won in 2008 is a fact, and the reason is the GOP blew up the economy.
     
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    bois darc chunk Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What's absurd is that I didn't argue that the tax cuts ALL go to increasing the wages of workers, in the first place. If Congress actually wanted to stimulate the economy and pay for the tax cut, the tax bill should have been written to benefit workers the most, but that obviously was not the real purpose for the tax cut. It was a political maneuver looking toward the mid-term election.

    My argument in this thread is that Conor Lamb ran as a moderate in a polarized political climate that is shifting away from the extremes, and incumbent Republicans will not be able to claim any kind of moderate status after foisting a $1.5Trillion addition to the debt that requires 3-4% growth in the GDP to pay for it- growth we are not seeing. A blue wave is coming. I can see it, and I'm not even a Democrat. Conor Lamb's election, in a deep red district, is a strong indication of the political winds shifting.

    Most Americans do not invest in the stock market, do not have 401Ks, IRAs, or mutual funds. The majority of Americans have less than $1000 in savings, yet we all carry the burden of $1.5Trillion being added to the deficit. Repatriation doesn't seem to be much of a factor right now.
     
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  4. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    What is center left about supporting the tax rate cuts, being pro-life, being pro-2nd Amendment, not running against Trump and running against Pelosi?
     
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    And that is what is wrong with the system.
    People elect a person they like, but the system make them be who they want, or else get black balled, so to speak.
    Both parties, want party over country. Corrupt DNC and RNC.
    Exactly why I don't give any post of yours credence.
    It's like someone saying no R's because that's like having Nazis or Islam running our country.
     
    dairyair, Mar 17, 2018
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    $150B per year based on 2% growth is ~ 3% of federal spending. At 4% growth that deficit goes away. Nice to see concern about spending however. Why aren’t the D’s working to reduce the built in rate of increasing government spending ?!
     
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    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    No, IMO, it was ACA and how it passed.
     
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    Like how? The top 20% of earners already pay over 90% of income taxes. How much less should the middle class pay?

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    That $1.5T is a CBO estimate over 10 years. First CBO estimates are historically inaccurate. Second the Democrats had a ONE YEAR deficit of $1.4T and then kept it over $1.0T for the next there so that was $5.4T over just four years. And you think they are more fiscally responsible?

    Who's going to paying to carry that debt, the highest earners as they do now.
     
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    The Democrats won in 2006, a year before the economy blew up.
     
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    Bottom line, A D won a heavily biased R district. Where R's spent a boat load of money to keep it with a R name.
    They lost.
    They have lost most every special election since 2016?
     
    dairyair, Mar 17, 2018
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    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    Connor Lambs priorities.
    Sounds like a moderate D to me. R's are against most of the things he deems important.

    My priorities
    TAKING IMMEDIATE ACTION TO FIGHT THE HEROIN CRISIS
    JOBS & INFRASTRUCTURE: NO MORE STALLING
    AFFORDABLE HEALTH CARE
    PROTECTING MEDICARE & SOCIAL SECURITY
    RELEASING STUDENTS FROM LIFETIME DEBT TRAPS
    UNIONS
    MODERN ENERGY DEVELOPMENT

    https://conorlamb.com/priorities/
     
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    He is pro choice (not pro life), he is pro very strong gun background checks, and ran strongly against Trump, and said he would support Pelosi.

    Bluesguy is moving to the center: that's good.
     
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    My priorities
    TAKING IMMEDIATE ACTION TO FIGHT THE HEROIN CRISIS
    JOBS & INFRASTRUCTURE: NO MORE STALLING
    AFFORDABLE HEALTH CARE
    PROTECTING MEDICARE & SOCIAL SECURITY
    RELEASING STUDENTS FROM LIFETIME DEBT TRAPS
    UNIONS
    MODERN ENERGY DEVELOPMENT

    https://conorlamb.com/priorities/
     
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    Your arguments have already been roundly demolished the last few weeks.

    You tried to escape the GOP overwhelming criminal responsibility and were forced to eat the truth of it.
     
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    No he is against abortion and beliefs life begins at conception, pro-2nd amendment and stated he was not running against Trump and

    " Lamb early on declared he would not support Pelosi and called for new leadership in both parties."
    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/03/nancy-pelosi-conor-lamb/555647/

    Jake is posting his nonsense again.
     
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    23 seats flipping is not as easy as you think.
     
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    BluesLegend fails again.

    My priorities [says Lamb]
    TAKING IMMEDIATE ACTION TO FIGHT THE HEROIN CRISIS
    JOBS & INFRASTRUCTURE: NO MORE STALLING
    AFFORDABLE HEALTH CARE
    PROTECTING MEDICARE & SOCIAL SECURITY
    RELEASING STUDENTS FROM LIFETIME DEBT TRAPS
    UNIONS
    MODERN ENERGY DEVELOPMENT
    [after the election, he said he would support Pelosi]

    https://conorlamb.com/priorities/

    So :) if he supports Hoyer, he is a Trumpertootian?
     
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    Then why did the dems get tossed en masse in 2010?
     
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    And I bet you support getting rid of the electoral college also, even though you just admitted the electorate might not vote rationally, they may vote on emotion.

    lol
     
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    They often vote on emotion: 2008, 2010, and 2016 certainly are proofs of that.
     
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    :roflol:

    The GOP wrecked the economy towards the end of 2008 and it was because of DEREGULATION legislation that they are passed as part of their War ON America agenda.
     
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    I never said that it was easy but eliminating the GOP gerrymandering in PA flips 5 seats to the Dems thereby reducing the burden to 19 seats.

    If you look back at prior wave elections they are usually around 25 seats changing hands in the House. The 2017 VA general assembly election wiped out a 30+ seat GOP majority.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2018-midterm-elections-preview/

     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    I already answered that question for you.

    Do you believe that the answer is going to change just because you ask it again?
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Yes, the EC is an anachronism and yes, it is possible for the electorate to vote on emotion but even an emotional vote in 2016 would not have worked for your BLOTUS.
     
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