Dershowitz: Jan. 6 Panel 'Doctored the Tape,' Edited Out Trump's Words

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  1. Hey Now

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    Editing/truncating my post is against the forum rules. Requote and try again. See post 49 for context and clarity.
     
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  2. Kal'Stang

    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    Again, I have not made an affirmative claim in either direction. As such I have no obligation to do anything. You however have. Are you going to prove your affirmative claim? Or keep deflecting?
     
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    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    Then report me. :shrug:

    Just another deflection. :rolleyes:
     
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    Neither of us are obliged to prove anything. The contents of the OP are just that : opinion. What Dershowitz said is his opinion, not fact.

    Furthermore, I’m not going to play the “proof” game with a Trump supporter until there is a court decision.
     
  5. Pred

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    Maybe. How many lied claiming they heard Trump tell people to drink bleach? How many claimed Trump told people to riot? How many claimed Trump called KKK idiots, "fine people"? NEVER did any of that, yet, Democrats still say it to this day. EVERYONE has been lying about what Trump has said, or thought or insinuated?? Its hard to trust anyone. The MSM and DC lost their ****ing minds when Trump won. They have gone insane and they still are. I can't trust anything anyone claims they "thought" someone said. But I can trust what I can see with my own eyes.

    The entire MSM sits there and allows Biden to legitimately lie, over and over again and they do NOTHING. No Covid vaccine until he became president? REALLY? WTF?? That's not misspeaking. That's not a gaff!!!! That's not exaggeration. That is an EVIL and MANIPULATIVE LIE!!!! People went more apeshoot over Trump exaggerating about crowd numbers. They went CRAZY over how an exact number of people who might have attended an event is so horrible. THAT **** they care about? Please. They applaud the speaker of the house ripping up a presidents speech right behind him at the SOTU? That's diabolical and evil!!! Can't trust any of these scum in charge of information or truth. How can we trust them anymore?
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Only a moron would expect or think that defacto proof exists in this context .. so why would you demand such proof from someone else ?

    This is then followed by an unsupported claim .. followed by fallacious nonsense an assumed premise fallacy circle jerk.

    Conclusion - you do not know what an argument is :)
     
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    Too bad your own eyes can't see Trump’s evil. Too bad you can’t admit what an ignorant , incompetent and truly evil thing he actually is.

    Once you do that we can discuss your other issues.
     
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    When you make an affirmative claim, then yes, you are obligated to prove your affirmative claim. Doesn't matter if you're replying about an opinion or anything else. The moment you make an affirmative claim, the onus is on you to prove it. If you can't then fine, just say so. Though that wouldn't be truthful since you can prove your claim simply by providing the video of the hearing with the relevant part.

    If you won't however, then anything you say is worth far less than what Dershowitz said. Because it shows that you don't care if your affirmative claim is true or not. And if the truth doesn't matter to you then you are putting ideology before the truth. Something that those on the left supposedly abhor and have been railing against Trump supporters for doing.

    So, which is it? Prove your affirmative claim? Admit to not being truthful? Admit to being wrong? Or show that all your claims about Trump supporters is nothing more than self projection?
     
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    You define his evil actions, then I will gladly not support whichever example of evil you demonstrate he did. And please don't just connect me with some whacky blog. Just show a couple examples of evil. I never called him a good man, BTW. I liked some of his policy, because it helped the country, and sometimes when he spoke, it was great. Other times he spoke, NOT so great. Sounded like an idiot. But normally when someone says how evil he is, their examples are things he never did or never said, or they're taken out of context. So its hard to have an intelligent discussion until I can set up a baseline of someone's level of awareness of realty.

    For example...cheating on wives. Dick move!!! But evil? No.
     
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  10. Hey Now

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    I don't report, I prefer to expose/call out disingenuousness & flaming masquerading as forum debate.
     
  11. Hey Now

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    I'll refer you to my second sig. It's gonna bring out the whine in masochists like Dersh et al.
     
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    Then you should be calling out yourself.
     
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    I did not watch the hearing and am glad that I didn’t. For all the reasons you mentioned at the end. The left is just upset that Dershowitz went to NewsMaxTV with his complaint knowing that the msm would not air his statement.
     
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    And the straw man deflection flame, too easy to make happen and expose.
     
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    Farce is the key word here
     
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    Sorry mate .. your lack of understanding what an argument is .. has little to do with anything deep .. sans the dent in coherent thought.
     
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    LMAO, as Tolkien once wrote, so would a cornered wolf would say, if it could talk. !!
     
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    What does the source have to do with it? They did omit that context. Basically I think the committee has done a good job of demolishing Trump's talking points but the lack of context there just makes it easy for people to cry "Foul". I think they'd have been better advised to include "peacefully and patriotically" but point out how many more times Trump talked about fighting.
     
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    And yet accurate!
     
  20. Hey Now

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    Still trying to sharpen skills that one was ungifted with? So telling, I tire of punching down however.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not my fault only a moron would think one could produce proof that Dershowitz was telling the Truth. Definitely some skill sharpening needed if you can't figure that one out.
     
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    I feel like no one cares about this whole thing.
     
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    And therefore to the Clintons/Al Gore who were also his pals?

    YOU made the assertion, YOU prove it. Guilty until proven innocent is true Stalinist thinking.
     
  24. Hey Now

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    Don't need to, this entire thread and OP are unproven, Dersh is FOS or being controlled :).
     
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    Of course, we are in one of our most difficult economic situations as a country in the last century, and we have this kabuki theater to distract us, but it's neither entertaining nor informative of anything of value.
     
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