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Did God Give Israel To The Jews?

Discussion in 'Religion & Philosophy' started by Stray Cat, Mar 26, 2011.

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  1. cassandrabandra

    cassandrabandra New Member

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    you presume that people share your fantasy.
     
    cassandrabandra, Aug 14, 2011
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  2. Quantrill

    Quantrill New Member

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    Irregardless to me who shares it. Its the way it is. Isn't it?

    Quantrill
     
    Quantrill, Aug 14, 2011
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  3. AllEvil

    AllEvil Active Member Past Donor

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    Can you really justify deciding the lives of over 7 million people based on the supposed word of a being whose mere existence yet to be demonstrated?
     
    AllEvil, Aug 14, 2011
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  4. Quantrill

    Quantrill New Member

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    Sure can.

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    Quantrill, Aug 14, 2011
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  5. AllEvil

    AllEvil Active Member Past Donor

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    Good thing you aren't in charge, then, I suppose.
     
    AllEvil, Aug 14, 2011
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  6. Quantrill

    Quantrill New Member

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    As I said, Israel is there, so Im in agreement with The One who put her there.

    Quantrill
     
    Quantrill, Aug 14, 2011
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  7. AllEvil

    AllEvil Active Member Past Donor

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    ... The British?
     
    AllEvil, Aug 14, 2011
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  8. Quantrill

    Quantrill New Member

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    Just tools in the hand of God.

    Quantrill
     
    Quantrill, Aug 14, 2011
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  9. cassandrabandra

    cassandrabandra New Member

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    Your god has a lot of tools.

    A real god wouldn't need them.
     
    cassandrabandra, Aug 14, 2011
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  10. Quantrill

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    He doesn't need them he uses them.

    A real God would be with His people against their enemies. Thats why Israel is back in the land and conquered the Arabs.

    Is Allah a real god? What happened? Sleeping? On vacation? Gone to the bathroom? Or just wans't 'god' enough. Met his match.

    Quantrill
     
    Quantrill, Aug 15, 2011
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  11. cassandrabandra

    cassandrabandra New Member

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    so the Zionists are God's people?

    what happens to the christians then?

    lols - I have to say though that your "my god is bigger than your God " line speaks volumes.
     
    cassandrabandra, Aug 15, 2011
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  12. tomteapack

    tomteapack New Member Past Donor

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    Unlike religious nuts, I could not care less if anyone believes me or not. I am just here for my personal entertainment, and observing others beliefs is often quite entertaining.

    I leave "conversion" to the religious nuts.
     
    tomteapack, Aug 15, 2011
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    tomteapack New Member Past Donor

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    One of the few things the OT of the bible got right was WHO held the right to control the land.
    Land is controlled by MIGHT OF ARMS, as the army of the Hebrews proved, over and over and over again.
     
    tomteapack, Aug 15, 2011
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    The Jews are the chosen physical race of God through whom God brings the promises of redeemption and rule over the world.

    Christians, are a separate people of God, an heavenly people , the Body of Christ.

    You started it by saying 'a real God doesn't need tools'. So, just giving you explantion.

    Quantrill
     
    Quantrill, Aug 15, 2011
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    tomteapack New Member Past Donor

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    Sorry, but a piece of paper does NOT give a nation to anyone. The People of Israel, by might of arms, formed their modern nation and have, by might of arms kept it from all invaders.

    The Palestinians and Muslims should be quite happy with Israel, since it has taken over a quarter million joins from out of the Arab nations. The Arab nations that hate Jews, no longer have an internal jewish problem,they should be supporting Israel, not fighting it, lol.

    Ah, if only there was a Muslim nation that all Muslims wanted to live in. And a Christian one that wanted all Christians, etc.
     
    tomteapack, Aug 15, 2011
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  16. Quantrill

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    Im not worried about you believing me either. But, I know that what the Bible says is true. And I know you don't speak the truth, as you said.

    Quantrill
     
    Quantrill, Aug 15, 2011
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  17. cassandrabandra

    cassandrabandra New Member

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    lols - the more you tell me about your god, the less god like he becomes!
     
    cassandrabandra, Aug 15, 2011
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  18. tomteapack

    tomteapack New Member Past Donor

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    Sorry, but maps record the boundaries that MEN make, it is not the other way around.
    And all boundaries, including those of America have been formed by MIGHT OF ARMS, not treaties, not paper and not any god or gods.
     
    tomteapack, Aug 15, 2011
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    tomteapack New Member Past Donor

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    ROFLOLOL, the word of god, (I am guessing you mean the Christian god?) has been changed by thousands of denominations, by any idiot, even those that can't read and want to be proclaimed Messiah. The Jews that followed Jesus did not believe the same thing as any of the variety of Christians today, St Jerome did not believe the same as Constantine and on and on. If the truth be known, no two Christians have EVER interpreted the bible in the same way. The only christians who believe exactly as someone else are the ones that just follow blindly a charismatic leader.
    The "WORD OF GOD" in any religion is changed by anyone and everyone that reads it.
     
    tomteapack, Aug 15, 2011
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    tomteapack New Member Past Donor

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    No, the way of fantasy is not "the way it is". No god, only swords, guns and might of arms form and keep a country. That is one of the few things the bible gets right, as the Hebrews of old knew. When their arms were strong, they won and kept land, when their arms were weak they were conquered and lost their land.
     
    tomteapack, Aug 15, 2011
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    tomteapack New Member Past Donor

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    Israel is a nation of citizens who decide for themselves what their life is to be, quite similar to the way we do it in the USA.
     
    tomteapack, Aug 15, 2011
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    tomteapack New Member Past Donor

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    NO, you can just say you believe it is justified, even though your belief is very mistaken.
     
    tomteapack, Aug 15, 2011
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    And how would you know what 'god like' is?

    Quantrill
     
    Quantrill, Aug 15, 2011
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  24. tomteapack

    tomteapack New Member Past Donor

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    Ahhhhhh, then you are in agreement with the Zionist leader and first prime minister of israel, David Ben-Gurion. Glad you got off that god kick.
     
    tomteapack, Aug 15, 2011
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  25. Quantrill

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    No, I can say exactly as I said. Whether you believe it is immaterial to me.

    Quantrill
     
    Quantrill, Aug 15, 2011
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